Die Regierung bestätigt das Wohlbefinden im Geschäft mit Rebellen
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6my6v81z4o
Von Alert-One-Two
Die Regierung bestätigt das Wohlbefinden im Geschäft mit Rebellen
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6my6v81z4o
Von Alert-One-Two
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The damage is done, however. Many traditional Labour voters were shocked by the inherent and callous cruelty of even proposing these cuts, specifically targeting disabled people and their child dependents. It’s Tory-level cruelty.
A lot of these policies seem poorly thought out and badly communicated. This has saved no money, damaged the government and will probably get challenged later on when new claimants say they are being discriminated against and the nickname „Two Tier Keir“ will be all over the tabloids again. It’s like an episode of The Thick Of It.
Intensely depressing. The welfare bill has gone up 20bn since covid, a rise not seen in any other country (before you say „because covid“ obviously) and this proposal was only going to cut 6bn, and even then Labour can’t bring itself to do it.
In some areas 25% of young people receive some form of mental health based incapacity benefit.
This situation is unsustainable and the irony for this bills‘ detractors is that they are hastening the death of the welfare state by their efforts.
It’s easy to sit on the sidelines and whinge. But we face huge and increasing welfare costs. What’s the solution?
People JUST pressured the government to climb down on the heating allowance. The Boomers are the wealthiest generation in history. They are the only people who have faced zero cuts since the 2008 financial crisis–while every service has been eliminated or cut for the young. They saw off attempts to get them to pay the TV license. Now they’re refusing to allow the wealthiest of them to lose the heating allowance. The young have been landed with mortgage-sized tuitions, crippling rents, crumbling schools, and an effective elimination of NHS dental and even GP care.
We have a ballooning population of people who aren’t actually disabled claiming they have „mental health“ issues that prevent them from working. And people who are disabled, but capable of some kind of work not working. Last time Labour was in power, these people would have had access to support to get back into work. Those programmes were all eliminated under austerity though. If they were brought back and Starmer told the public people would be supported into work, maybe that would be a more palatable message. Communication is a real problem for this government.
Starmer’s problem here is that the disabled lobby (just like with assisted dying) has, as usual, made this situation all about them. They’ve hijacked the debate to make it sound like they’ll all be out on the street. It shouldn’t be about hurting people who are genuinely disabled. It should be about making it harder for people who lack basic life skills or wealthy Boomers to get welfare.
The UK is turning into a welfare‑dependent nation and depressing trend where more people seem to be taking from the state rather than giving back through work and taxes.
Health‑related benefits have skyrocketed In 2023–24, with spending on incapacity/health‑related benefits hitting £48 bn, up from £36 bn in 2019–20, and could reach £63 bn by 2028–29. Nearly 6 million working‑age adults are on sickness benefits, costing the state £60 bn annually which is double what it was in 2009, and projected to be £70 bn by 2030.
And so many claimants are of Working‑age. Roughly 9.9 million working‑age people (22.8 %) receive some form of benefit, alongside 13 million pension‑aged recipients, so about 14.5 % of the total population is on welfare. Around 23 % of working‑age adults are receiving benefits which is insane.
“Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall told Labour MPs that claimants of the Personal Independence Payment (Pip) will continue to receive what they currently get, as will recipients of the health element of Universal Credit. Instead, planned cuts will only hit future claimants.”
Probably the best compromise to get it passed and also satisfy those against benefits.
I’m real sick of the ‘somebody else’s problem’ attitude of our government.
Once again this is a good policy on paper that does nothing in reality but damn the future generations/ people in need. We know people, elderly or otherwise are leeching off the country but are afraid to do anything about them. Government policy is to improve things for after they all die off, which does nothing when all the wealth in the country is already sucked up and passed on.
What’s daft is the welfare reform green paper consultation is still ongoing. So the government has rushed through this bill it’s now having to backtrack on before the consultation has even finished.
What’s going to happen when the consultation is finished and it returns findings that contract the contents of the current bill?
Starmer needs to get some better advisors and ditch Morgan McSweeney.
The only change they needed to make really was make it means tested.
Well we’re fucked as a country. We can’t cut pensions because the pensioners get pissed beyond all measure and vote. We can’t cut our insane benefits bill because mps rebel.
We can’t cut immigration because apparently you have the legal right to flee through all of mainland Europe before reaching the UK and still claim you’re in danger, even if you’re a convicted pedo or murderer. And we struggle to build anything thanks to nimbyism.
Oh and we’re not allowed to raise taxes apparently because that’s bad, so we cannot pay for any of the previous four things.
And no party is willing to deal with any of these issues. So now the best any British political party can manage is managed decline.
A little of people moaning about how helping the sick and vulnerable costs too much and is therefore unsustainable. They’ll have to make cuts elsewhere to pay for it etc.
Maybe if the government actually used our taxes properly, we could afford things. The best place to start would be to stop with all the government projects that go 10s of billions over budget, miss their deadlines by years, and end up getting cancelled anyway.
We could easily afford a welfare state if the government stopped just setting public money on fire.