Why would they be scared of doing an impact assessment if they didn’t already know the answer to it?
This has all but confirmed the malicious intent behind the cabinet.
Greedy-Tutor3824 on
I got unlucky. Virus affected my heart and god knows what else. Went from a professional career to a societal accounting error. Despite my heart not working well, and this permeating everything I do, I still didn’t get 4 points in any one category thanks to the enormous amount of reaching and specious logic incorporated by my PIP assessor. If they want to push these changes through, can they at least open up some Futurama booths? It’s nicer than telling us to just starve.
Intrepid_Solution194 on
So a u-turn on Christmas wine *ahem* I mean ‘winter fuel’ payments for pensioners and now looking like a u-turn on giving free money to people who feel anxious about working.
Great; so tax rises it will be on the rest of us then.
MoffTanner on
So will they resort to another NI increase or drop a selection of their spending plans?
xParesh on
I guess that means big tax rises are coming this Autumn because its either that or we borrow even more
sylanar on
Yay for an ever ballooning welfare state that were never allowed to touch!
Never cut pensions or touch the triple lock, never cut benefits, just keep taxing everyone more and more
This isn’t sustainable
Classic_Peasant on
Not sure how this government would ever win a war, cant even stand firm on their own pledges, laws or bills.
Can’t deal with any backlash from own staff, let alone hostile actions from abroad.
Wish someone would have a backbone.
batch1972 on
I’m probably going to get flamed to hell over this but how do we square the circle? Welfare and pensions are unaffordable. We have no money. Taxing more is not necessarily the solution since company’s and high worth individuals can simply redomicile to lower tax countries
SmashedWorm64 on
As bad as it sounds, PIP absolutely needs a rethink. So many people who need it are not eligible and so many people get it that absolutely should not get it.
Oh_Shiiiiii on
Incoming lowering of the tax free allowance I can’t see any other way things going
Bridgeboy95 on
Starmer „I will proceed ahead! “
Starmer „actually i never ever wanted to do the idea at all, honest, in fact this complete other idea was what we always talked about“
Neo-Riamu on
I feel like the entire benefit system needs a redo but sadly again no real political will nor a willingness to face the harsh realities.
You know what could be a simple answer that could see the entire system simply dismantled saving potentially billions and that is UNI (Universal Basic Income).
There would be no need for a benefit system nor a pip system (we probably will need to create a system for the extremely incapable) and if we as a society push it a bit further maybe even affordable housing for all.
Turbulent_Art745 on
The irony is that half their reforms target non means tested sickness benefit. If you qualify via national insurance contributions you will no longer get support after a set time, no matter if your health is no better. Literally targeting those who worked but fall ill, not the „expect stuff for free“ bunch that so many say justifies this…
Literally working families where one person becomes ill, they are getting utterly shafted in this „morally justified“ reform they are pushing….
So all your healthy people who pay in but support this as you think it goes after „scroungers“ just pray you don’t get ill before you retire at 68 or you just shot yourself in the foot (and that’s not enough for 4 points, sorry dark humour)
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Why would they be scared of doing an impact assessment if they didn’t already know the answer to it?
This has all but confirmed the malicious intent behind the cabinet.
I got unlucky. Virus affected my heart and god knows what else. Went from a professional career to a societal accounting error. Despite my heart not working well, and this permeating everything I do, I still didn’t get 4 points in any one category thanks to the enormous amount of reaching and specious logic incorporated by my PIP assessor. If they want to push these changes through, can they at least open up some Futurama booths? It’s nicer than telling us to just starve.
So a u-turn on Christmas wine *ahem* I mean ‘winter fuel’ payments for pensioners and now looking like a u-turn on giving free money to people who feel anxious about working.
Great; so tax rises it will be on the rest of us then.
So will they resort to another NI increase or drop a selection of their spending plans?
I guess that means big tax rises are coming this Autumn because its either that or we borrow even more
Yay for an ever ballooning welfare state that were never allowed to touch!
Never cut pensions or touch the triple lock, never cut benefits, just keep taxing everyone more and more
This isn’t sustainable
Not sure how this government would ever win a war, cant even stand firm on their own pledges, laws or bills.
Can’t deal with any backlash from own staff, let alone hostile actions from abroad.
Wish someone would have a backbone.
I’m probably going to get flamed to hell over this but how do we square the circle? Welfare and pensions are unaffordable. We have no money. Taxing more is not necessarily the solution since company’s and high worth individuals can simply redomicile to lower tax countries
As bad as it sounds, PIP absolutely needs a rethink. So many people who need it are not eligible and so many people get it that absolutely should not get it.
Incoming lowering of the tax free allowance I can’t see any other way things going
Starmer „I will proceed ahead! “
Starmer „actually i never ever wanted to do the idea at all, honest, in fact this complete other idea was what we always talked about“
I feel like the entire benefit system needs a redo but sadly again no real political will nor a willingness to face the harsh realities.
You know what could be a simple answer that could see the entire system simply dismantled saving potentially billions and that is UNI (Universal Basic Income).
There would be no need for a benefit system nor a pip system (we probably will need to create a system for the extremely incapable) and if we as a society push it a bit further maybe even affordable housing for all.
The irony is that half their reforms target non means tested sickness benefit. If you qualify via national insurance contributions you will no longer get support after a set time, no matter if your health is no better. Literally targeting those who worked but fall ill, not the „expect stuff for free“ bunch that so many say justifies this…
Literally working families where one person becomes ill, they are getting utterly shafted in this „morally justified“ reform they are pushing….
So all your healthy people who pay in but support this as you think it goes after „scroungers“ just pray you don’t get ill before you retire at 68 or you just shot yourself in the foot (and that’s not enough for 4 points, sorry dark humour)