A hundred fucking grand for a safety review? What is going on? How much does it cost for some people to dance down the road?
Old-Aside1538 on
We do everything online nowadays; it shouldn’t be any different for carnivals.
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Codydoc4 on
Fund it yourself, if it’s such an important cultural event then I’m sure the thousands of people who attend can chip in a couple of quid for a safety review.
ODFoxtrotOscar on
This is about crowd safety
The event has massively outgrown its original site and is a crowd crush disaster waiting to happen
XenorVernix on
Make it ticketed. My tax shouldn’t be funding this event. Other private events work that way.
HerefordLives on
Speaking as someone who loves the Notting Hill Carnival because it’s hilarious and just utter lawlessness – the government is fucked on this one.
You don’t fund the security and it’ll happen anyway and loads of people will die. You criticise it and you get called racist. That’s just it. Even if it’s a billion quid the festival is happening
ConnectPreference166 on
As someone who goes to Notting hill they can decide to not fund it as the mas bands will go down there anyway. Not to mention how much money London makes from Notting hill carnival.
Martinonfire on
Oh dear, what a shame.
Unfortunately I suspect tax money will be used to keep it going.
Stamly2 on
Oh no! Where will London’s drug dealers advertise their wares?
Hang on, here’s an idea, maybe they could charge the dealers a fee?
Longjumping_Stand889 on
It’s always a battle between people who don’t want to change anything and people that worry it has outgrown the venue and is now too risky.
I really hope they somehow sort this before anything happens, I can’t see how you can make the area completely safe without a huge lockdown which the residents would rightly object to.
Silly_Triker on
The space it’s held in is too small for the crowds it attracts these days. They can only do what they do for NYE fireworks and make it a ticketed event. Now, it’s almost certain we will see some kind of mass riot or scenes like at Wembley 2020 where huge numbers of ticketless folk will try to gatecrash the event. Chaos. Definitely dead people. Arrests.
Then the event gets banned. Then there’s more riots. Arrests. Maybe some more dead. Talks. Discussions. Maybe further down the line it gets reinstated in some other manner after a process of reconciliation.
But you basically just need to let that whole process happen, warts and all. It’s like attacking a wasps hive, it’s messy, but necessary, and eventually you’ll sort it out.
burnaaccount3000 on
I’m sure the comments here will be level headed and not inflammatory at all like every post here about notting hill carnival is….
Legitimate-Pay-1793 on
What culture? It is pretty much a clothes-on sex party of everyone intoxicated
nellion91 on
A conversation on a multicultural festival on r/unitedkingdom.
That will be balanced and educational.
/s
Alert-Philosopher216 on
Ask any police officer that has worked it how unsafe, risky and unpleasant it is. Nevermind the council tax payers who have to put up with it. Better done in an out of town venue or a park with regulated entry – pay private security just like every other festival …
bduk92 on
Make it a private, ticketed event.
There’s no reason the taxpayer should fund this.
If the local community want it so badly, I’m sure they can pay a fee for it.
Deckard2022 on
Good ! It’s a violent flash point in London every year.
Gangs treat it like some sort of music backed purge. It should end or be ring fenced and ticketed.
No10UpVotes on
Libraries, museums, public roads, train lines, national events = public good.
A single event that breaks the Met Police, with murders, rampant criminality = not a public good.
rationalplan10 on
Long been talk of moving it to Hyde park. This could be the excuse.
Abject-Direction-195 on
It used to to be such a great day out 20 years ago. Now it’s a shuffle a lot, wee smell, ear drum shattering experience with attitude
Savage-September on
Charge for the event. Mostly it’s free, but change people a ticket and this will not only ensure safety of the public but raise revenue
Trigga1976 on
Charge people £50 for every person they stab, and there will be extra money. They could even have a stall that sells knives for £100 just in case people forget to bring their knives.
No_Background7059 on
Well you don’t pay for it do you???? Us Londoners do, whilst also paying for your shitty town and the rest of the UK. Doesn’t sound so good the other way does it? Stay out of our business
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A hundred fucking grand for a safety review? What is going on? How much does it cost for some people to dance down the road?
We do everything online nowadays; it shouldn’t be any different for carnivals.
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Fund it yourself, if it’s such an important cultural event then I’m sure the thousands of people who attend can chip in a couple of quid for a safety review.
This is about crowd safety
The event has massively outgrown its original site and is a crowd crush disaster waiting to happen
Make it ticketed. My tax shouldn’t be funding this event. Other private events work that way.
Speaking as someone who loves the Notting Hill Carnival because it’s hilarious and just utter lawlessness – the government is fucked on this one.
You don’t fund the security and it’ll happen anyway and loads of people will die. You criticise it and you get called racist. That’s just it. Even if it’s a billion quid the festival is happening
As someone who goes to Notting hill they can decide to not fund it as the mas bands will go down there anyway. Not to mention how much money London makes from Notting hill carnival.
Oh dear, what a shame.
Unfortunately I suspect tax money will be used to keep it going.
Oh no! Where will London’s drug dealers advertise their wares?
Hang on, here’s an idea, maybe they could charge the dealers a fee?
It’s always a battle between people who don’t want to change anything and people that worry it has outgrown the venue and is now too risky.
I really hope they somehow sort this before anything happens, I can’t see how you can make the area completely safe without a huge lockdown which the residents would rightly object to.
The space it’s held in is too small for the crowds it attracts these days. They can only do what they do for NYE fireworks and make it a ticketed event. Now, it’s almost certain we will see some kind of mass riot or scenes like at Wembley 2020 where huge numbers of ticketless folk will try to gatecrash the event. Chaos. Definitely dead people. Arrests.
Then the event gets banned. Then there’s more riots. Arrests. Maybe some more dead. Talks. Discussions. Maybe further down the line it gets reinstated in some other manner after a process of reconciliation.
But you basically just need to let that whole process happen, warts and all. It’s like attacking a wasps hive, it’s messy, but necessary, and eventually you’ll sort it out.
I’m sure the comments here will be level headed and not inflammatory at all like every post here about notting hill carnival is….
What culture? It is pretty much a clothes-on sex party of everyone intoxicated
A conversation on a multicultural festival on r/unitedkingdom.
That will be balanced and educational.
/s
Ask any police officer that has worked it how unsafe, risky and unpleasant it is. Nevermind the council tax payers who have to put up with it. Better done in an out of town venue or a park with regulated entry – pay private security just like every other festival …
Make it a private, ticketed event.
There’s no reason the taxpayer should fund this.
If the local community want it so badly, I’m sure they can pay a fee for it.
Good ! It’s a violent flash point in London every year.
Gangs treat it like some sort of music backed purge. It should end or be ring fenced and ticketed.
Libraries, museums, public roads, train lines, national events = public good.
A single event that breaks the Met Police, with murders, rampant criminality = not a public good.
Long been talk of moving it to Hyde park. This could be the excuse.
It used to to be such a great day out 20 years ago. Now it’s a shuffle a lot, wee smell, ear drum shattering experience with attitude
Charge for the event. Mostly it’s free, but change people a ticket and this will not only ensure safety of the public but raise revenue
Charge people £50 for every person they stab, and there will be extra money. They could even have a stall that sells knives for £100 just in case people forget to bring their knives.
Well you don’t pay for it do you???? Us Londoners do, whilst also paying for your shitty town and the rest of the UK. Doesn’t sound so good the other way does it? Stay out of our business