Trump ist im Begriff, Amerika in einen anderen für immer Krieg zu stürzen
Trump ist im Begriff, Amerika in einen anderen für immer Krieg zu stürzen
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What a rollercoaster US President Donald Trump has taken us on in less than a week since Israel first stunned the world by launching its [military strikes on Iran](https://inews.co.uk/news/world/explosions-heard-in-tehran-as-israel-announces-strike-on-iran-3746891?ico=in-line_link).
Last Sunday, after the news broke, [Trump](https://inews.co.uk/topic/donald-trump?srsltid=AfmBOooX9slGN337SAjX1ySdm08p60Fzb9fCH8v5s_HrrmNMUJONJ2Gv&ico=in-line_link) raced to social media to insist that his administration had “nothing to do” with Israel’s military action and still hoped that via ongoing talks with Iran that “we can easily get a deal done…and end this bloody conflict”.
Fast forward a mere 96 hours, and Trump was holed up with his national security team in the White House situation room [mulling a major escalation](https://inews.co.uk/opinion/trump-is-itching-to-attack-iran-and-take-the-glory-3755784?ico=in-line_link) in the conflict with Iran, hours after departing the G7 summit early where he had — only grudgingly — signed a declaration calling for de-escalation in the conflict.
Trump always likes to keep his adversaries guessing about his true intentions. But after Prime Minister [Sir Keir Starmer](https://inews.co.uk/topic/keir-starmer?srsltid=AfmBOoqAXgUYTZR2ivfTepenUorCRv-5JDCiMNycw8OX-iE2MoUsbSBy&ico=in-line_link) told reporters at the summit in Canada that he had dined alongside Trump on Tuesday night and was in “no doubt” about his commitment to de-escalation, Washington’s allies must now also be dubious about the quixotic American leader’s next move.
Israel wants him to fire up his B-2 bombers and order US Air Force pilots to drop [30,000-pound bunker-busting bombs](https://inews.co.uk/news/trump-iran-big-things-promise-options-3753710?ico=in-line_link) — the country’s most powerful non-nuclear weapons — in order to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities once and for all. Trump is now suddenly portraying himself entirely at the centre of the conflict, demanding Iran’s “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER” on social media, warning Tehran’s 10 million residents to evacuate the city, and insisting that he knows the location of Iran’s Supreme Leader but has decided not to assassinate him yet.
As the President extemporises, it is impossible to identify any clear White House strategy in the conflict. On the one hand, Trump projects himself as itching to reduce [Iran’s nuclear facilities](https://inews.co.uk/news/world/how-worried-irans-nuclear-threat-3630002?srsltid=AfmBOoris7tLYlywQrEVNQVUKF2I2eyLDWwS-uhsEbRUShT1LmlWIYWF&ico=in-line_link) to dust. On the other hand, he blames the Iranian authorities for failing to strike an agreement with Washington within an arbitrary, 60-day deadline laid down by the White House, cajoling them to do so now. Israel attacked on day 61, even as the American and Iranian negotiating teams were planning to meet 48 hours later.
If it wasnt him, it would be someone else…kinda like a whole military industrial complex is goin on and a long history of avoiding recessions by being in forever wars…anyways its fun to talk cuz it makes zero difference to the people in charge what we say or discuss.
Bomb bomb bomb , bomb bomb Iran , bomb iranian, because you canian. bomb iranian, we’re a rockin and a rolling, rockin and a rolling, bomb iran.
so what’s the alternative here? the US & Israel should stop and go back to hoping that what hasn’t worked for the past 15 years will suddenly work, and that it’s a good idea to let a theocratic dictatorship who has been arming terrorists and stirring up trouble in the mideast for decades get the bomb?
You think Truman would’ve stopped at the 38th parallel had he known that 70 years later, North Korea would be threatening the continental US with ICBMs?
Sending a B2 to blow up Fordo over the course of a day = a forever war
With a massive tax cut, so this will completely bankrupt the US.
Use the GBU-57, don’t say anything. Pretend you are still staying out of it. Then dare Iran to escalate.
Forever war!? You do realise that Iranians themselves want their country back from the islamists right?
How’s the MAGA people doin‘
Dropping bombs on a country without ever stepping foot on to it’s soil isn’t a „forever war“. It’s just an attack.
Please keep us out of wars! We shouldn’t be involved with everything in the world.
So if the iranian state collapses, you have:
1. The Balochs who will secede
2. The Kurds who will secede
3. ISIS who will infect the country
4. A possible invasion by the taliban for border regions
5. Azerbaijan potentially backing azeri turks in Iran and possibly intervening
6. Turkey either getting involved to crush the kurds or back the azeris
7. The general population is split between secularists and theocrats fighting eachother
8. Another refugee crisis into Europe.
Yeah, I’m going to say I think intervening is a bad idea.
It will be done in 3 days, friend Putin told him
I’m 100% for making sure Iran doesn’t get nukes. And no, I don’t believe them when they say they’re not trying to develop them. Israel might be exaggerating the timeframe, they’ve been saying Iran is “weeks away” for like 35 years, but that doesn’t mean the threat isn’t real.
I don’t like the Iranian regime. Let’s be honest: they’re behind a lot of the instability in the Middle East. They bankroll militias, prop up Assad, and now they’re supplying Russia with Shahed drones to bomb Ukrainian civilians. They’re not some passive victim, they’re an active problem.
If there were a way to topple that regime without dragging the U.S. into another endless war, I’d be open to it. But let’s not pretend we haven’t been lied into wars before. I’m not interested in another disaster built on half-truths and tough-guy posturing with no plan for what comes next.
I’m on the fence about whether the US is taking the right approach on this but the forever war tag is bad, lazy analysis at this stage
America’s ‘forever wars’ were Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, and they were forever wars because they involved protracted, large scale and unsuccessful ground commitments that were expensive in blood and treasure
All the options being discussed at the moment do not involve ground troops or occupation
Moreover, Iran started the hostage crisis in 1979 and American soldiers died on Iranian soil trying to solve it. No one said Carter was starting a forever war then, or accused Reagan of the same when he sank the Iranian navy in the 80s.
Arguably the US has been in a forever war with Iran since 79, started by Iran. Was the Cold War a forever war’? What’s our criteria here?
I’m seriously curious if the idiots who actually believe this also believed that bombing Yemen would be a „forever war“.
Because I remember people making these exact same stupid arguments against attacking Yemen and I’m curious if its the same people who just havent learned anything.