Picture shows a warehouse worker, but this probably isn’t the type of worker they are talking about.
GeneReddit123 on
When a few years ago I wrote that Amazon, instead of recognizing unionization or employee welfare concerns, will simply replace workers with robots, I was mocked as having naive faith in technology and disrespectful of people’s power.
Well, then.
Individual company-level unionization can no longer stop the destruction of workers‘ rights. This isn’t the industrial age anymore, this is a backslide to neo-Feudalism. You never saw peasants organizing successful strike actions against their lords *for a reason.*
At this point, this collapse can *only* be stopped at the national government level through mass people’s action (e.g. „No Kings x 10“ level of protests), seizing back control over the paralyzed Congress and captured Presidency, and enforcing *swift and major* labor rights and tax reform laws. Localized workplace actions are no longer structurally capable of delivering meaningful reform.
No-Necessary7152 on
Warehousing and distribution are very ripe for automation, this doesn’t surprise me at all. It will not be very many years until most routine tasks, like picking, packing, assembly, and last-mile delivery is done predominantly, if not entirely by robotics and software
Pert02 on
So Mr Jassy says this will happen at some point in the future with technology that still does not exist but of course you should believe him because he is impartial and totally not benefitting from Amazon Web Services and its cloud business from exploting over everyone jumping into the LLM train.
I am not even going to value what he says with my beliefs in mind.
If he is making those comments he should put his money where his mouth is. Show me the growth, show me the increased efficiency and show me the massive layoffs you keep promising.
Further more show me the money. So far companies working on LLMs have either been flushed with VC money to operate at a loss, or are financing the LLM branches of the business with ones that make money or are the ones selling you the hardware such as NVDIA, Broadcom, etc.
I have zero doubts there are benefits to it, there is efficiency gains. But I am currently not sure about how far they go and how economically viable it is given how propped up by investors that will want their money back at some point the business is.
All of this notwithstanding the damage to the environment with an ever growing power consumption that is planned to rival the energy requirements of countries such as Japan.
zippopopamus on
I can hear the evil villain laughter from jeff bezos until there’s no amazon customers left
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Picture shows a warehouse worker, but this probably isn’t the type of worker they are talking about.
When a few years ago I wrote that Amazon, instead of recognizing unionization or employee welfare concerns, will simply replace workers with robots, I was mocked as having naive faith in technology and disrespectful of people’s power.
Well, then.
Individual company-level unionization can no longer stop the destruction of workers‘ rights. This isn’t the industrial age anymore, this is a backslide to neo-Feudalism. You never saw peasants organizing successful strike actions against their lords *for a reason.*
At this point, this collapse can *only* be stopped at the national government level through mass people’s action (e.g. „No Kings x 10“ level of protests), seizing back control over the paralyzed Congress and captured Presidency, and enforcing *swift and major* labor rights and tax reform laws. Localized workplace actions are no longer structurally capable of delivering meaningful reform.
Warehousing and distribution are very ripe for automation, this doesn’t surprise me at all. It will not be very many years until most routine tasks, like picking, packing, assembly, and last-mile delivery is done predominantly, if not entirely by robotics and software
So Mr Jassy says this will happen at some point in the future with technology that still does not exist but of course you should believe him because he is impartial and totally not benefitting from Amazon Web Services and its cloud business from exploting over everyone jumping into the LLM train.
I am not even going to value what he says with my beliefs in mind.
If he is making those comments he should put his money where his mouth is. Show me the growth, show me the increased efficiency and show me the massive layoffs you keep promising.
Further more show me the money. So far companies working on LLMs have either been flushed with VC money to operate at a loss, or are financing the LLM branches of the business with ones that make money or are the ones selling you the hardware such as NVDIA, Broadcom, etc.
I have zero doubts there are benefits to it, there is efficiency gains. But I am currently not sure about how far they go and how economically viable it is given how propped up by investors that will want their money back at some point the business is.
All of this notwithstanding the damage to the environment with an ever growing power consumption that is planned to rival the energy requirements of countries such as Japan.
I can hear the evil villain laughter from jeff bezos until there’s no amazon customers left
How did that work out for you, Amazon Fresh?
[https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/amazon-ends-ai-powered-store-checkout-which-needed-1000-video-reviewers/](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/amazon-ends-ai-powered-store-checkout-which-needed-1000-video-reviewers/)
What’s the endgame? Getting AI robots to buy tat from AI warehouses?
Outsource people to automation and no one’s gonna have money to buy from your stupid site.
If you didn’t read the article, here’s what the very last line says:
>[Critics say these warnings](https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/30/business/anthropic-amodei-ai-jobs-nightcap) aren’t based off much research or evidence and are coming from the people who are poised to profit the most from AI adoption.
So take these headlines with a grain of salt.
Show me a list of the jobs being eliminated and show me the list of jobs being hired for India first.
So which way is it going? We get items cheaper without all the overhead or they make even more money?
AI is not really replacing people yet but these companies are just aching to do another round of layoffs to temporarily boost their stock value
If they don’t someone else will and their lead will be gone.
Well, for starters people can choose not to buy from them.