Hallo Norwegen! 👋🏽 👋🏽

    Ich habe Fragen darüber, wie Trolle aus Norwegen dargestellt werden, da ich ein großer Monster-/Fair -Folk -Fan bin, und in letzter Zeit haben Kreaturen aus nordischen Ländern mein Interesse geweckt, und ich plane schließlich, in Zukunft Kunstwerke von ihnen zu schaffen. Ich kenne Theodor Kittelsens Kunstwerke von Trollen, aber ich war überrascht zu stellen, dass Trolle je nach Norwegen unterschiedlich beschrieben werden, da Trolle in Nordnorwegen als Menschen mit riesiger Größe beschrieben werden. Zeigt der Rest Norwegens Trolle, die wie Kittelsens und Nordnorwegen mit riesigen Human-Trollen aussehen, oder hat jede andere Region eine eigene Version? Wenn es das letztere ist, wie sehen Trolle aus jeder Region Norwegens aus? Und verhalten sich alle norwegischen Trollen das Gleiche oder handeln sie je nach Region unterschiedlich? Ich frage auch, denn sobald ich Kunstwerke erstelle, möchte ich so genau wie möglich sein.

    Wenn ihr irgendwelche Informationen hat, lassen Sie es mich bitte wissen, ich schätze es! ☺️

    Danke schön! 🙋🏽%♀️

    Bearbeiten: 2025/15/6- Was denkst du über die Designs der Trolle von Bramble: The Mountain King? In Bramble habe ich zum ersten Mal von Kreaturen aus der nordischen Mythologie und der skandinavischen Folklore gelernt und woher meine Interessen kamen, und ich fand es toll, wie die Entwickler sie alle entworfen haben, einschließlich der Trolle, aber ich möchte wissen, wie Ihre Gedanken und Meinungen zuerst auf ihnen sind. Was denkst du über Humons Kunstwerke und die Informationen, die sie über Trolle gegeben hat? Ich frage nur, ob das Wissen korrekt ist oder nicht. Takk!

    http://humoncomics.com/trolls-from-four-coungries

    http://humoncomics.com/not-a-fairy

    http://humoncomics.com/smoked-cheese

    http://humoncomics.com/changelings

    http://humoncomics.com/mountain-people

    http://humoncomics.com/troll-and-fairy

    http://humoncomics.com/huldra-and-troll

         

    Depictions of Trolls
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    1. Regular_Pea4731 on

      The trolls in northern Norway are just fantasy figures in fairytales. We don’t speak about the other ones…

    2. Eurogal2023 on

      There is a blurred line between different kinds of hidden folk, often called „tusser og troll“.

      Tusser are close to dwarfs in the Tolkien universe, kinda smaller trolls like the guys who lives in barns and are visible on old norwegian christmas cards.

      Then you have Huldra who is more like the german Lorelei who lives up in the mountains and often seduces men, (pretending to be a human woman), but in Norway she has a cow tail and a hollow back so the hero usually discovers that in time, lol.

      There is also Nøkken, who seems to be a male Lorelei, a guy who lives in forest lakes and plays the violin so sexily that he can seduce women to drown by it.

      Nøkken was portayed by Kittelsen more like a heap of branches, and there was a scifi tv series years ago where they used that Kittelsen image to make Nøkken into a sumberged ufo.

    3. shartmaister on

      Norway is a quite big country so there’s of course cultural and genetic differences between north and south.

    4. a_karma_sardine on

      Troll literally means (black) magic and is used for a wealth of supernatural beings and also the act of trolling (fooling or hexing by ill-willed magic, not the internet kind), so naturally there will be variations.

      A couple of northern trolls are draugs and stallos.

      The draug is a drowned person, typically a fisherman. He’s out in low light or bad weather and can look like a sea-dressed man, rotted corpse, or a tuft of kelp and debris from a shipwreck. He’s lurking on dark beaches or around cemeteries, or riding half a boat in storms. He will want to warn you about danger ahead at sea or tell you it’s too late, loan your boathouse for his Christmas party, or just scare the wits out of you.

      A stallo is a Sami troll. He can be huge and man-like (maybe this is the one you’ve heard of?) Stallo can be a monster made by nature or a scare based on tsjudene, russian war raiders/tax collectors from bygone times. He will do and go through anything to get to eat you and your children (or put the lot of you in his sack to keep as a snack for later). He can have pointy teeth and be stealthy.

      Notable for a foreigner wanting to depict Norwegian trolls: they are NOT sexy (with the exception of hulder, nøkken and fossekallen). They do NOT look like Hollywood or Tolkien elves; trolls are scary, dangerous, hulking monsters and their features are inspired by Norwegian nature and weather, not Japanese folklore. Read up and be critical of your inspirations, as there are more bad ones than good if you truly want to be accurate.

    5. Crazy-Magician-7011 on

      Tons of litterature has been produced about this, that can be found on [nb.no](http://nb.no) (in Norwegian).
      Here are some examples:
      [https://www.nb.no/items/3df89412a5dfac0746923a2157e6ebb1?page=0&searchText=trollmakter](https://www.nb.no/items/3df89412a5dfac0746923a2157e6ebb1?page=0&searchText=trollmakter)
      [https://www.nb.no/items/ee79f39aadcdb0cb50c47883abf2d53b?page=13&searchText=trollmakter](https://www.nb.no/items/ee79f39aadcdb0cb50c47883abf2d53b?page=13&searchText=trollmakter)

      You might have to use a VPN, and/or a translator app.

      Good reading! Very interesting subject.

    6. Steffalompen on

      You should also be aware of the term „underjordiske“, subterraneans, which encompasses most of these beings. Some can take human form, Nøkken, Bergekongen, Bergetrollet, Huldra (not fully. Tail and hollow back) (songs, Liti kjersti, Herr Mannelig, Trøllabundin)

      Depictions are one thing, but in tradition huldrefolket is very prominent in both North and South. (Huldre, hidden). Most of these take human form (at least when we see them) and live almost like a mirror image of the overworld, bringing their cattle up to graze. Sometimes they try to abduct humans or animals. That magic can be broken by throwing a piece of steel over the afflicted. Most Huldrefolk fit with the icelandic elves, both swap newborns with humans, byttinger (tradelings), but in Norway they are ugly and in Iceland they are breathtakingly beautiful.

      It seems to me that the huge trolls are more of a remnant of the creation stories. The largest troll (jotne) is the one who’s remains we live on, our planet, which Odin made from Ymir after killing him. Then there are several mountains and rock formations explained by how some ancient jotne was turned to stone by the Sun. (Hestmannen, Vågakallen, de Syv Søstre) In that sense there are larger trolls in the North, as many mountains are part of such creation stories.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if remnant populations of neanderthals or people with a large percentage of such genes gave rise to some of this.

    7. So, this will not be the answer you’re looking for, but could be interesting never the less.

      In the saga’s (1300’s ish) the word “troll” was used to refer to magic wielders, and often meant Sámi people. It neither meant large being, nor giant.

      The jotne were sometimes referred to as giants, but more often not. In the Viking Age, the Norse of Northern-Norway created myths about their lineage, stating that they were descended from jotne and åse (Norse gods). However, they did not use the word troll about themselves nor the Sámi (not that we have many texts from that time, but the ones we do have do not refer to Sámi or jotne by that name). The link between “troll” and “magic user” appears to arrive after Christianity.

      When Christianity collided with Norse culture, something happened to the texts and how they were translated. “Troll” became a word for “magic wielder”, and were seen as evil. Then in later translations of sagas, you find numerous examples of trolls being translated as “giants” rather than just calling it a troll. My theory is that this happened because of the giants that were already a part of Christian mythology. The two words/creatures merged, creating the “new” creature: a blend of troll (Norse) and giant (Christian).

      The Stallo is a whole other creature. The Stallo was always a large being that wanted to eat you, and theories are that the Stallo-creature came to existence after Norse and tsjude raids, since the Stallo is the only mythical creature in Sámi belief that can be killed (as far as I know).

      It is not unlikely that the lust for human flesh (or specifically Christian flesh) is a trait the Christian version of the troll adopted from the Stallo.

      So to summarize, the troll we know today is relatively modern and not to be confused with the jotne, nor Stallo, nor giants. It has large variations in form and shape because it is a creature based on different characteristics from other “creatures”. Depending on the traditions in your area, the troll will have different traits and characteristics.

    8. Zealousideal-Elk2714 on

      In the traditional fairy tales collected by Asbjørnsen og Moe they come in many different shapes and sizes. Some of them have three heads (Soria Moria slott) or eyes as big as tin plates with a nose as long as a broom stick (De tre bukkene bruse). You also have trolls with an undefined appearance such as Bøygen, which is featued in Henrik Ibsen’s play Peer Gynt. It is described as an omnipresent invisible creature. Most of the stories about Bøygen have their origin in Telemark and Gudbrandsdalen.

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