Achse, Rivalität oder Chaos? Die US-China-Russlandgleichung mit Michael McFaul

For the latest episode of *China Considered,* Hoover Senior Fellows [Elizabeth Economy](https://www.hoover.org/profiles/elizabeth-economy) and [Michael McFaul](https://www.hoover.org/profiles/michael-mcfaul) sit down to discuss the complex relationships among the United States, China, and Russia. Economy and McFaul speak about the history of US engagement with Russia, McFaul’s experience as the US ambassador to Russia under President Barack Obama, and the increasing cooperation between China and Russia. McFaul begins by discussing early engagement with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev during the early Obama years, namely the signing of comprehensive multilateral sanctions on Iran, along with his role in crafting the Obama administration’s Russia policy. The two scholars then shift to a conversation about how Russia and China, under Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, are attempting to reshape the international order, how the war in Ukraine has already changed this relationship, and whether a “reverse Kissinger” is possible from the perspective of the United States.