Trump bittet den Obersten Gerichtshof, die Konvention gegen Folter zu neutralisieren. Trumps Anwälte behaupten, sie hätten eine Lücke gefunden, die es Trump ermöglicht, Einwanderer in Übersee zu versenden, um gefoltert zu werden.

    https://www.vox.com/scotus/416163/trump-supreme-court-deport-immigration-convention-torture

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    1. Long-Tradition6399 on

      Why? what’s the point? there’s no reason to torture anyone. It’s inhumane, and cruel. To even ask this means you’ve flushed your humanity down the toilet.

    2. For people who don’t realize yet that this is a ethnic cleansing.

      when your visa expires, or when you cross over the border illegally those are both minor civil infractions. not criminal charges, and trump wants to not only deport them, he wants to kill them, to torture them.

    3. Ah the loophole of “Rules don’t matter and I can do whatever I want”

      Seems to be a solid strategy so far tbh.

    4. FeedMeYourGoodies on

      Name one thing that Trump has done in the past 5 months to make life better for the average American.

      Everything has been hate and division and revenge.

    5. whatproblems on

      dafaq now they want to torture immigrants? that escalated quickly from already escalating quickly

    6. woodworkerdan on

      There’s no country that looked „great“ in the history books who took inhumane actions. This is disgusting.

    7. Only this administration would actively work to override safeguards about sending someone off to be tortured.

    8. No_Philosopher_1870 on

      [USAJOBS.gov](http://USAJOBS.gov) used to have an open announcement for the hiring of administrative law judges. These are the kind of judges who preside over immigration courts and Social Security disability appeals among other functions, and they don’t have lifetime appointments, nor does their appointment require Senate confirmation. The announcement required a law degree, admission to the bar in at least one state and three years of trial experience. Administrative law judges were paid between $136K and $187K as of 2022. Maybe it would take hiring 10,000 or more administrative law judges to hear all the cases and clear the backlog over a period of years. Even at a cost of $250K per year per judge to include the cost of employee benefits, this is only $2.5 billion for the judges. Triple or quadruple the cost to include the cost of legal representation for immigrants. You wind up with a cost of 60 F-35s per year.15 F-35s for the judges alone.

      My estimate of the amount of expansion of the administrative law courts needed to give immigrants due process may be high, but it seems cheap in comparison to the cost of midnight extraditions and transportation to nations where the people deported have no ties.

    9. RecommendationSlow16 on

      MAGA Trumpers are the worst people on the planet for voting for that bloated orange turd.

    10. pleachchapel on

      „This isn’t who we are“

      Yes it is. This is always what America was, underneath its Disney surface. Built on the backs of slaves on a pile of indigenous corpses. We have taken our opportunity to atone for this & flushed it down the toilet for the ego stroking of a game show host.

    11. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO FIND THAT LOOPHOLE? Jesus fucking Christ. What country was I born into? 

    12. AcanthisittaNo6653 on

      >According to President Donald Trump’s lawyers, the administration can simply wait until after an immigration judge has conducted the proceeding that ordinarily would determine whether a particular noncitizen may be deported to a particular country, and then, if that noncitizen is allowed to be deported, announce that the immigrant will be deported to some previously unmentioned country — even if that immigrant reasonably fears they will be tortured in that nation.

      If the deportation order specifies which country the noncitizen is to be deported to, their „loophole“ is actually a bait-and-switch scheme. It’s this kind of stuff that causes the whole world to recognize that the US is no longer one of the good guys. MAGAs may not care, but the rest of us who belong in the civilized world do.

    13. I mean if this shit turns out to be happening or does happen then everyone needs to [redacted]

    14. Wtf they’re already shipping them overseas with no recourse. What’s the point in torturing them too??? (Yes, I know the cruelty is the point but… it just never seems like a good enough reason. Seriously. WTF?!?)

    15. ICanSeeNow17 on

      Nobody is thinking big enough. Just like deportations started with illegal immigrants and moved on to US citizens. Torture will start with illegal immigrants….mark my words, I don’t even think it will take until the end of the year if they can get a supreme Court decision on this before the end of summer.

    16. CharlieBravo74 on

      Imagine being one of Trump’s lawyers. You’d have to be dead inside and unable to feel guilt, shame, or embarrassment. The things he asks them to justify are, at best, absurd but frequently they’re abhorrent.

      Today Trump is peak abhorrent.

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