This is exactly what he wants. He wants people to riot in the streets so he can rally his cult in Congress and the Supreme Court to giving him more power.
ScallionStall on
By „rarely used“ they mean „illegal.“
HansBooby on
rarely used but somehow with this fucking guy just legalish enough
Hockyinc on
And so it has begun.
Good luck down there.
monkeywithgun on
> ~~Trump~~ Wannabe tough guy is Deploying National Guard ~~Under a Rarely Used Power~~ for a few hundred protesters. That seems like a reasonable response… Wtf!?!
gpouliot on
Rarely used until now. Going forward, I’m sure that Trump will all sorts of reasons to use the National Guard and the military against anyone not willing to roll over and be bullied by him.
StormFireX001 on
Seems like these assholes never heard about what happened at Kent State back in 1970. Is that really a part of our history in the US that we need to repeat? The military has no place in addressing protestors, you’d think that would be clear from what happened back then, but those who seek to suppress the first amendment have little interest in history
KashissKlay on
“the UN is deeply concerned”
What the fuck value does that hold anymore? Authoritarians just shrug when they hear that “concern” and look the other way and continue their atrocities.
Foojira on
The transition of a country toward fascism is typically a gradual, multi-step process. While the exact path can vary depending on historical and cultural context, there is a common pattern of political, social, and institutional changes. Below is a general framework of steps often observed when a country slides toward fascism:
⸻
1. Economic or Social Crisis
• Trigger: Severe economic hardship (e.g., hyperinflation, unemployment), cultural upheaval, or social fragmentation creates widespread fear and instability.
• Effect: People become disillusioned with existing democratic institutions and are more open to authoritarian solutions.
⸻
2. Rise of a Charismatic, Authoritarian Leader
• Appeal: Promises to restore national greatness, law and order, and traditional values.
• Tactics: Uses emotionally charged rhetoric, scapegoats minorities or outsiders, and presents themselves as a “savior.”
⸻
3. Scapegoating and Demonization of “Enemies”
• Targets: Ethnic, religious, or political minorities; immigrants; intellectuals; or left-wing opponents.
• Narrative: These groups are blamed for the nation’s decline and portrayed as threats to unity and purity.
⸻
4. Undermining of Democratic Norms and Institutions
• Attacks on the press: Labeling critical media as “fake news” or “enemies of the people.”
• Judicial pressure: Weakening courts, replacing independent judges.
• Delegitimizing elections: Alleging fraud or seeking to overturn results when unfavorable.
⸻
5. Consolidation of Power
• Legal manipulation: Using laws or constitutional changes to extend terms, weaken checks and balances, or outlaw opposition.
• State loyalty: Installing loyalists in the military, judiciary, and civil service.
⸻
6. Use of Violence or Intimidation
• Street militias or paramilitary groups: Used to silence opposition, intimidate voters, or create chaos.
• State-sanctioned violence: Police brutality, suppression of protests, or arbitrary detention.
⸻
7. Propaganda and Control of Information
• Control of media: Nationalizing or pressuring independent outlets to follow state narratives.
• Rewriting history: Promoting a nationalist, often mythologized version of the past to instill pride and obedience.
⸻
8. Erosion of Civil Liberties
• Surveillance and censorship: Monitoring citizens, silencing dissent.
• Curtailing rights: Restrictions on assembly, speech, religion, or movement.
⸻
9. Militarization and Expansionism
• Glorification of the military: Military values are placed above civilian governance.
• External aggression: Foreign wars or territorial expansion are used to unite the population and distract from internal problems.
⸻
10. Institutionalization of Fascism
• One-party rule or totalitarian control: Political pluralism disappears.
• Normalization: Citizens adapt to new rules, opposition becomes dangerous or impossible, and fascism becomes the accepted norm.
⸻
This process can happen quickly or slowly, and not all steps are always followed in order or completed. Some democracies pull back from the brink; others slide fully into authoritarianism.
wwhsd on
The LAPD Public Information Office just tweeted out that the protests today remained peaceful and had concluded.
Seems like we don’t really need Trump to send in the National Guard.
m0i0k0e0 on
Kent State Massacre
May 4, 1970
National Guard murdered four and wounded nine unarmed college students.
Worldly-Spare4287 on
welcome to war guys, yet another predictable event that happened this week.
hamsterfolly on
It won’t be rarely used soon
Grandpa_No on
Thanks for the whitewash NYT. Y’all made this happen… You should be proud.
rezwenn on
Trump incited attacks against law enforcement on January 6. He then pardoned those attackers. Now, he says he won’t tolerate attacks against law enforcement. But what he really means is he feels very comfortable using force against those who disagree with him. In fact, few ideas are more core to his presidency. Thugocracy.
Due_Battle_1413 on
Every tool he has used is seldom used other than as an authoritarian. All his executive orders bypassing the houses are by seldom used national emergency proclamations.
AnamCeili on
If the National Guard had any balls, they would refuse.
Feistyhummingbird on
So no apparent need for the National Guard on January 6th when our nation’s Capitol was being ransacked and officers being attacked but now he wants them deployed?
Groundbreaking-Step1 on
Tin Soldiers and Trump is coming, we’re finally on our own…
SeniorFlyingMango on
But the January 6 insurrection was okay by trump standards
niveapeachshine on
It’s be funny if hypothetically Cali just fought the fuck back, hard.
CobraPony67 on
EVERYTHING IS AN EMERGENCY under this administration and congress and the supreme court are going along with it. There is no emergency. Nothing has changed since Biden was in office. But, T is declaring emergencies to get around any legislation, any supreme court deliberation, and doing whatever he wants.
eri- on
This is a pivotal moment, what happens next here might very well determine the future of the USA.
A very thin line indeed.
Starboard_Pete on
This is all going to be remembered, and history will not be kind to MAGA. In 10 years it’s going to be difficult to find anyone proudly willing to admit they voted for Trump.
The smartest of the conservative crop can see it coming, and they’re already trying to scuttle away from their vote. Hold them to it forever and make them own it.
I’m old enough to remember how disgustingly they treated liberals during the GW years. If you were against the invasion of Iraq, you were told you were unAmerican and you should go live there if you love it so much. Now you can’t find those big supporters anywhere. If you do, they act like they were tricked. Rats from a sinking ship….
Flat-Emergency4891 on
…why didn’t he think of this on January 6th when there actually were acts of insurrection? Still don’t believe this is a government overthrow by a radical regime? We better start paying more attention to the anomalous results in the 2024 elections. This dude might not even have won the presidency.
renb8 on
C’mon ‘merica. Don’t act all surprised. You knew this was coming. We all did.
nyteryder79 on
Of course it’s a rarely used power, because none of this is normal. It’s the start of an American dictatorship. This is the incident that the Project 2025 creators have been salivating over. The excuse for Trump to declare martial law and truely become a dictator.
Choice-of-SteinsGate on
For reference, it’s extremely rare for a president to activate the National Guard without approval or request from the state’s governor. It’s even rarer in this case considering that Trump invoked Title 10—rather than the Insurrection Act. Title 10 is often used under vague conditions. This was purposeful.
It also states that the president can call the National Guard into service if he considers it necessary to „repel the invasion, suppress the rebellion…“
So Trump’s directive rationalizes his actions by claiming that these protestors are in rebellion against the United States, and that the national guard must be mobilized to suppress this rebellion.
> “To the extent that protests or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.”
From my understanding, the last time this happened was in 1965, and the juxtaposition speaks volumes.
Some might argue that this happened under George H.W. Bush when he federalized California’s National Guard during the LA riots after the police officers who beat Rodney King were acquitted. However, the governor at the time—Pete Wilson—had already supported the move.
Which means that the last time a president deployed the National Guard without the consent of the state’s governor was back in 1965 when LBJ federalized the Alabama National Guard to protect civil rights marchers during the Selma to Montgomery marches.
So yah, think about that juxtaposition for a moment, think about the difference here, think about Donald Trump’s choice to abuse his unilateral authority—under vague conditions—to escalate violence against Americans who are protesting his administration’s ongoing authoritarian methods.
Think about what this means for America… When a president who openly flouts the law and violates the constitution, who doesn’t hesitate to attack and go after his political opponents and naysayers, who cares nothing for the rights of others—and especially those critical of him and his administration—think about what this means for our country and its citizens when a vindictive, narcissistic, temperamental, wanna-be king can grant himself the immediate authority to mobilize troops against those protesting his administration’s draconian policies and actions. When he can dictate—under his own terms—who is rebelling against his authority.
coreychch on
Could some MAGA-fuck-knuckle please explain to me how things would have been “worse” if Kamala Harris had won the Presidency?
**None** of what you’re seeing right now in the streets of LA would be happening. **None** of it.
Trump is nothing more than a snowflake who hides behind thugs to do his bidding if anyone disagrees with him. This won’t end well …
Cama_lama_dingdong on
Corrupt tRump administration continueing to find ways to kill people. It’s like their #2 agenda right under selling America to foreign governments.
allenahansen on
I just finished watching 12+ hours of live feed from surveillance cams located at the corners of Alameda and Alondra and Alameda and Temple streets. There were also a couple of hours of unedited and largely un-narrated aerial coverage from an NBC heli-cam flying over the NW and SE corners of DTLA and Paramount.
In no instance did I see more than fifty protestors (who were mostly watching trucks doing donuts in the intersection across from Dale’s Donuts where a car had burned) with perhaps ten or a dozen of them periodically throwing fireworks or smoke bombs at the minimal law enforcement presence, and at one point, some dude standing on the center island of the intersection selling Mexican (and American) flags to drivers waiting for the lights to change.
At Temple St in front of the Federal Building, I never saw more than thirty street participants, but counted a minimum of 200 city and federal officers all lined up in full body armor in formation blocking off onlookers, and at one point moving them fifty feet or so down the street away from the detention center entrance a few had tried to breach.
The idea of sending 2,000 National Guard troops to „control“ a handful of street hooligans is so absurd as to be laughable– although it’s not in the least bit funny– but there’s not the slightest doubt in my mind that trump will pump up this kayfabe „riot“ to justify ever more draconian tactics against a largely peaceful group of old lady seamstresses, part time students/dishwashers on scooters and bicycles, and the horrified neighbors and family members trying to track them down after a spate of arrests.
CounselorGowron on
Don’t forget to check this off on your Fascist Summer Bingo cards!
heyitslola on
This is what Trump has been pushing for. The military is facing a test. They swore to defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. If the new Joint Chiefs of Staff learned anything from Mark Milley following Trump blindly, they will refuse an unlawful order and it will stop. If not, the Republic is dead.
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Using the military against its own citizens.
Yall are as fucked as the Chinese.
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This is exactly what he wants. He wants people to riot in the streets so he can rally his cult in Congress and the Supreme Court to giving him more power.
By „rarely used“ they mean „illegal.“
rarely used but somehow with this fucking guy just legalish enough
And so it has begun.
Good luck down there.
> ~~Trump~~ Wannabe tough guy is Deploying National Guard ~~Under a Rarely Used Power~~ for a few hundred protesters. That seems like a reasonable response… Wtf!?!
Rarely used until now. Going forward, I’m sure that Trump will all sorts of reasons to use the National Guard and the military against anyone not willing to roll over and be bullied by him.
Seems like these assholes never heard about what happened at Kent State back in 1970. Is that really a part of our history in the US that we need to repeat? The military has no place in addressing protestors, you’d think that would be clear from what happened back then, but those who seek to suppress the first amendment have little interest in history
“the UN is deeply concerned”
What the fuck value does that hold anymore? Authoritarians just shrug when they hear that “concern” and look the other way and continue their atrocities.
The transition of a country toward fascism is typically a gradual, multi-step process. While the exact path can vary depending on historical and cultural context, there is a common pattern of political, social, and institutional changes. Below is a general framework of steps often observed when a country slides toward fascism:
⸻
1. Economic or Social Crisis
• Trigger: Severe economic hardship (e.g., hyperinflation, unemployment), cultural upheaval, or social fragmentation creates widespread fear and instability.
• Effect: People become disillusioned with existing democratic institutions and are more open to authoritarian solutions.
⸻
2. Rise of a Charismatic, Authoritarian Leader
• Appeal: Promises to restore national greatness, law and order, and traditional values.
• Tactics: Uses emotionally charged rhetoric, scapegoats minorities or outsiders, and presents themselves as a “savior.”
⸻
3. Scapegoating and Demonization of “Enemies”
• Targets: Ethnic, religious, or political minorities; immigrants; intellectuals; or left-wing opponents.
• Narrative: These groups are blamed for the nation’s decline and portrayed as threats to unity and purity.
⸻
4. Undermining of Democratic Norms and Institutions
• Attacks on the press: Labeling critical media as “fake news” or “enemies of the people.”
• Judicial pressure: Weakening courts, replacing independent judges.
• Delegitimizing elections: Alleging fraud or seeking to overturn results when unfavorable.
⸻
5. Consolidation of Power
• Legal manipulation: Using laws or constitutional changes to extend terms, weaken checks and balances, or outlaw opposition.
• State loyalty: Installing loyalists in the military, judiciary, and civil service.
⸻
6. Use of Violence or Intimidation
• Street militias or paramilitary groups: Used to silence opposition, intimidate voters, or create chaos.
• State-sanctioned violence: Police brutality, suppression of protests, or arbitrary detention.
⸻
7. Propaganda and Control of Information
• Control of media: Nationalizing or pressuring independent outlets to follow state narratives.
• Rewriting history: Promoting a nationalist, often mythologized version of the past to instill pride and obedience.
⸻
8. Erosion of Civil Liberties
• Surveillance and censorship: Monitoring citizens, silencing dissent.
• Curtailing rights: Restrictions on assembly, speech, religion, or movement.
⸻
9. Militarization and Expansionism
• Glorification of the military: Military values are placed above civilian governance.
• External aggression: Foreign wars or territorial expansion are used to unite the population and distract from internal problems.
⸻
10. Institutionalization of Fascism
• One-party rule or totalitarian control: Political pluralism disappears.
• Normalization: Citizens adapt to new rules, opposition becomes dangerous or impossible, and fascism becomes the accepted norm.
⸻
This process can happen quickly or slowly, and not all steps are always followed in order or completed. Some democracies pull back from the brink; others slide fully into authoritarianism.
The LAPD Public Information Office just tweeted out that the protests today remained peaceful and had concluded.
Seems like we don’t really need Trump to send in the National Guard.
Kent State Massacre
May 4, 1970
National Guard murdered four and wounded nine unarmed college students.
welcome to war guys, yet another predictable event that happened this week.
It won’t be rarely used soon
Thanks for the whitewash NYT. Y’all made this happen… You should be proud.
Trump incited attacks against law enforcement on January 6. He then pardoned those attackers. Now, he says he won’t tolerate attacks against law enforcement. But what he really means is he feels very comfortable using force against those who disagree with him. In fact, few ideas are more core to his presidency. Thugocracy.
Every tool he has used is seldom used other than as an authoritarian. All his executive orders bypassing the houses are by seldom used national emergency proclamations.
If the National Guard had any balls, they would refuse.
So no apparent need for the National Guard on January 6th when our nation’s Capitol was being ransacked and officers being attacked but now he wants them deployed?
Tin Soldiers and Trump is coming, we’re finally on our own…
But the January 6 insurrection was okay by trump standards
It’s be funny if hypothetically Cali just fought the fuck back, hard.
EVERYTHING IS AN EMERGENCY under this administration and congress and the supreme court are going along with it. There is no emergency. Nothing has changed since Biden was in office. But, T is declaring emergencies to get around any legislation, any supreme court deliberation, and doing whatever he wants.
This is a pivotal moment, what happens next here might very well determine the future of the USA.
A very thin line indeed.
This is all going to be remembered, and history will not be kind to MAGA. In 10 years it’s going to be difficult to find anyone proudly willing to admit they voted for Trump.
The smartest of the conservative crop can see it coming, and they’re already trying to scuttle away from their vote. Hold them to it forever and make them own it.
I’m old enough to remember how disgustingly they treated liberals during the GW years. If you were against the invasion of Iraq, you were told you were unAmerican and you should go live there if you love it so much. Now you can’t find those big supporters anywhere. If you do, they act like they were tricked. Rats from a sinking ship….
…why didn’t he think of this on January 6th when there actually were acts of insurrection? Still don’t believe this is a government overthrow by a radical regime? We better start paying more attention to the anomalous results in the 2024 elections. This dude might not even have won the presidency.
C’mon ‘merica. Don’t act all surprised. You knew this was coming. We all did.
Of course it’s a rarely used power, because none of this is normal. It’s the start of an American dictatorship. This is the incident that the Project 2025 creators have been salivating over. The excuse for Trump to declare martial law and truely become a dictator.
For reference, it’s extremely rare for a president to activate the National Guard without approval or request from the state’s governor. It’s even rarer in this case considering that Trump invoked Title 10—rather than the Insurrection Act. Title 10 is often used under vague conditions. This was purposeful.
It also states that the president can call the National Guard into service if he considers it necessary to „repel the invasion, suppress the rebellion…“
So Trump’s directive rationalizes his actions by claiming that these protestors are in rebellion against the United States, and that the national guard must be mobilized to suppress this rebellion.
> “To the extent that protests or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.”
From my understanding, the last time this happened was in 1965, and the juxtaposition speaks volumes.
Some might argue that this happened under George H.W. Bush when he federalized California’s National Guard during the LA riots after the police officers who beat Rodney King were acquitted. However, the governor at the time—Pete Wilson—had already supported the move.
Which means that the last time a president deployed the National Guard without the consent of the state’s governor was back in 1965 when LBJ federalized the Alabama National Guard to protect civil rights marchers during the Selma to Montgomery marches.
So yah, think about that juxtaposition for a moment, think about the difference here, think about Donald Trump’s choice to abuse his unilateral authority—under vague conditions—to escalate violence against Americans who are protesting his administration’s ongoing authoritarian methods.
Think about what this means for America… When a president who openly flouts the law and violates the constitution, who doesn’t hesitate to attack and go after his political opponents and naysayers, who cares nothing for the rights of others—and especially those critical of him and his administration—think about what this means for our country and its citizens when a vindictive, narcissistic, temperamental, wanna-be king can grant himself the immediate authority to mobilize troops against those protesting his administration’s draconian policies and actions. When he can dictate—under his own terms—who is rebelling against his authority.
Could some MAGA-fuck-knuckle please explain to me how things would have been “worse” if Kamala Harris had won the Presidency?
**None** of what you’re seeing right now in the streets of LA would be happening. **None** of it.
Trump is nothing more than a snowflake who hides behind thugs to do his bidding if anyone disagrees with him. This won’t end well …
Corrupt tRump administration continueing to find ways to kill people. It’s like their #2 agenda right under selling America to foreign governments.
I just finished watching 12+ hours of live feed from surveillance cams located at the corners of Alameda and Alondra and Alameda and Temple streets. There were also a couple of hours of unedited and largely un-narrated aerial coverage from an NBC heli-cam flying over the NW and SE corners of DTLA and Paramount.
In no instance did I see more than fifty protestors (who were mostly watching trucks doing donuts in the intersection across from Dale’s Donuts where a car had burned) with perhaps ten or a dozen of them periodically throwing fireworks or smoke bombs at the minimal law enforcement presence, and at one point, some dude standing on the center island of the intersection selling Mexican (and American) flags to drivers waiting for the lights to change.
At Temple St in front of the Federal Building, I never saw more than thirty street participants, but counted a minimum of 200 city and federal officers all lined up in full body armor in formation blocking off onlookers, and at one point moving them fifty feet or so down the street away from the detention center entrance a few had tried to breach.
The idea of sending 2,000 National Guard troops to „control“ a handful of street hooligans is so absurd as to be laughable– although it’s not in the least bit funny– but there’s not the slightest doubt in my mind that trump will pump up this kayfabe „riot“ to justify ever more draconian tactics against a largely peaceful group of old lady seamstresses, part time students/dishwashers on scooters and bicycles, and the horrified neighbors and family members trying to track them down after a spate of arrests.
Don’t forget to check this off on your Fascist Summer Bingo cards!
This is what Trump has been pushing for. The military is facing a test. They swore to defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. If the new Joint Chiefs of Staff learned anything from Mark Milley following Trump blindly, they will refuse an unlawful order and it will stop. If not, the Republic is dead.