HINWEIS: Dieser Beitrag soll nicht als offensichtlich sein. Ich möchte nur wissen, auf welcher Grundlage sie AQ-Qoyunlu und Qara-Qoyunlu behaupten,
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Von Diligent-Tank-3871
HINWEIS: Dieser Beitrag soll nicht als offensichtlich sein. Ich möchte nur wissen, auf welcher Grundlage sie AQ-Qoyunlu und Qara-Qoyunlu behaupten,
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Von Diligent-Tank-3871
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They just don’t.
Because they ruled over Iran.I don’t know what you mean by claim.Iranian isn’t an ethnic group it’s just a region
The fact that even their names are turkic
What are your thoughts on the claim „Safavid Empire being persian empire“ as well?
This is also a popular notion that I see in the comments on any social media.
Eh probably a niche pseudo-historical idea
Why do people like you try to raise intentions? Iranians don’t claim that. But there are biased people everywhere, I wouldn’t consider „their“ actions as „Iranian“ actions.
Their rulers did call the realm Iran. Uzun Hassan referred to himself as Padishah of Iran when writing with the Ottomans. I don’t know about Iranians claiming them to be of ethnic Persian or Iranic origin. Maybe a minority does.
No one fucking knows, not even them
u/Diligent-Tank-3871 why don’t you ask this question in an Iranian sub instead of here where people are openly hostile towards anything Iranian ?
As a descendant of the Qajar dynasty (most of you turks dont even know if u have noble blood) Maybe because these dynasties mixed with local Persians and adopted their culture to a significant extant if these dynasties where pure turkic they would look asian its like saying uk is indian history because Rishi Sunak became prime minister
iranian-fact: iran used to control the whole world but becouse they are very nice they gave it all back.
They were Iranian, just not Tajik but Turkic
Lol Iranians also claim the Seljuks ( Turks from Central Asia btw )
They’re delusional, that’s why.
It reminds me chinese claiming Mongol empire because it has largely chinese population and soldiers
These nations were undoubtedly of Azeri/Turkomen origin. They carried over many traditions from Central Asia and in many ways were culturally Turkic. This changed when first Jahan Shah (Qara Qoyunlu) and then Uzun Hasan (Aq Qoyunlu) conquered large parts of Iran. They now ruled over primarily Iranic cultured regions, but unlike other non Iranic empires that conquered Iran, they adopted aspects of Persian culture. Persian culture has a tendency to spread outward, and was a lingua franca for the entire region, and the Qara/Aq Qoyunlu would had been in this area. We do not claim these empires as Persian in ethnicity, but Iranic in Culture.
The official language as well as the majority of the residents of both of them were Persian. Same with the Safavid Empire. Just because the rulers were Turkic doesnt make the country a Turkic country. Modern day Iran is ruled almost exclusively by Turks (both the supreme leader and president) but calling it a Turkic country would be extremely stupid.
Because we don’t. Most of us don’t even know about these two, let alone try to claim them.
Let them be qoyun if they want to.