She should have to start paying it back when she gets out, from her state pension…..otherwise it’s not really justice.
Prison is right for violent offenders, but frauds like this woman should have to work for the state for a while to make amends – though it’s such a large amount of money I doubt she’ll ever fully repay it.
FatKnob on
They’ll be out in a few months. Seems like crime does pay.
Ochib on
Steal £270,000 from the government and you go to jail, steal £200M+ and you get to keep the money
Lammtarra95 on
Prevention is better than cure and it looks to the untrained eye as if this fraud could have been detected and stopped right at the outset. From the linked story:-
>*Lloyd’s con first began in February 2012, when she started to claim housing benefits from West Lancashire Borough Council in relation to a caravan on a site at a „fictitious address“ of Riverside Walk in Southport.*
A simple and, one imagines, easily computerised check on that address could have stopped Lloyd in her tracks.
dcrm on
> Phillips meanwhile helped himself to £100.980.71 in false claims for employment support allowance, PIP, housing benefit and council tax reduction over a period of around five-and-a-half years from April 2018 onwards
This is obviously fake. This sub routinely tells me that there is 0% benefit fraud with PIP.
Reality-Umbulical on
All well and good but explain how it’s so straightforward to charge and imprison „normal people“ for fraud when Michelle mone and her husband steal millions and relax on yachts. Grant shapps mate gets gifted multi million pound contracts and it’s business as usual.
There will come a reckoning
Jensablefur on
Not gonna lie, the first thing that entered my head was *that* moment from Troll 2…
AhhBisto on
I’m thrown by the fact she worked for Tesco under a fake name, how on Earth was that possible? Did she have a dodgy NI number?
Locellus on
I don’t care what disabilities you have, you fucking lied and stole taxpayer money… zero sympathy from me
We’re all struggling to varying degrees; disabled and low income people need help and from what little we as a country afford them you think you’re entitled to a larger share?
This is what enables politicians to cut these programs and convince people that all people on benefits are cheats, (meanwhile they hand that money straight to their family or friends…. )
What self defeating pieces of shit.
xwsrx on
2 years for £270*k*
Now let’s see what happens to Michelle Mone who took £200*m*.
(and that’s ignoring the aggravating factors that she was in high public office, used that public office as part of the swizz, did it to profiteer at a time of national crisis, weakened the protection of front line medical staff, lied about it repeatedly, etc etc etc)
somnamna2516 on
I’m afraid you need to be a Baroness or Dame to do that sort of stuff and get away with it.
furrycroissant on
Waiting for the „small boats are the problem“ brigade
zippyzebra1 on
12 months max in an open prison. Nice and dandy. Not a dollar will ever get repaid. Open prisons are just like rehab.
AdAvailable1500 on
Bring back mine work or digging manual labour and make it enforceable. If punishments were actual punishments people actually might stop thinking of doing shit like this.
HallettCove5158 on
How did she get caught, hope it was an anonymous tip off by someone that knew what’s she was up to.
Low_Tap3168 on
A massively ramped up and properly run Community Service scheme would benefit everyone.
We’re constantly told there’s not enough public money to keep public toilets open, to maintain various outdoor spaces etc. Every convicted fraudster (and other criminals who are not an immediate threat to society) should be made to work for minimum wage maintaining public infrastructure (cleaning toilets, mowing verges, litter picking, repainting walls etc) until their gains are repaid in full. For the amount it costs to hold each prisoner (£40k+ per year?) you could employ a staff member to oversee a team of these parasites to do something useful with their lives.
LingonberryNo3548 on
We are such wet wipes as a country. Put these people in shackles and send them down some mines somewhere for the remainder of their lives. If people thought they would have to slave away doing the worst possible jobs for their whole lives to provide some of the value back that they stole they might actually not commit crimes.
Federal-Star-7288 on
This will be going on all over the system by so many people. When people voice anger about the benefits system, this is what they are talking about. Disgusting people like this ruin a system that should be so great for the people in need. These people are pure scum.
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She should have to start paying it back when she gets out, from her state pension…..otherwise it’s not really justice.
Prison is right for violent offenders, but frauds like this woman should have to work for the state for a while to make amends – though it’s such a large amount of money I doubt she’ll ever fully repay it.
They’ll be out in a few months. Seems like crime does pay.
Steal £270,000 from the government and you go to jail, steal £200M+ and you get to keep the money
Prevention is better than cure and it looks to the untrained eye as if this fraud could have been detected and stopped right at the outset. From the linked story:-
>*Lloyd’s con first began in February 2012, when she started to claim housing benefits from West Lancashire Borough Council in relation to a caravan on a site at a „fictitious address“ of Riverside Walk in Southport.*
A simple and, one imagines, easily computerised check on that address could have stopped Lloyd in her tracks.
> Phillips meanwhile helped himself to £100.980.71 in false claims for employment support allowance, PIP, housing benefit and council tax reduction over a period of around five-and-a-half years from April 2018 onwards
This is obviously fake. This sub routinely tells me that there is 0% benefit fraud with PIP.
All well and good but explain how it’s so straightforward to charge and imprison „normal people“ for fraud when Michelle mone and her husband steal millions and relax on yachts. Grant shapps mate gets gifted multi million pound contracts and it’s business as usual.
There will come a reckoning
Not gonna lie, the first thing that entered my head was *that* moment from Troll 2…
I’m thrown by the fact she worked for Tesco under a fake name, how on Earth was that possible? Did she have a dodgy NI number?
I don’t care what disabilities you have, you fucking lied and stole taxpayer money… zero sympathy from me
We’re all struggling to varying degrees; disabled and low income people need help and from what little we as a country afford them you think you’re entitled to a larger share?
This is what enables politicians to cut these programs and convince people that all people on benefits are cheats, (meanwhile they hand that money straight to their family or friends…. )
What self defeating pieces of shit.
2 years for £270*k*
Now let’s see what happens to Michelle Mone who took £200*m*.
(and that’s ignoring the aggravating factors that she was in high public office, used that public office as part of the swizz, did it to profiteer at a time of national crisis, weakened the protection of front line medical staff, lied about it repeatedly, etc etc etc)
I’m afraid you need to be a Baroness or Dame to do that sort of stuff and get away with it.
Waiting for the „small boats are the problem“ brigade
12 months max in an open prison. Nice and dandy. Not a dollar will ever get repaid. Open prisons are just like rehab.
Bring back mine work or digging manual labour and make it enforceable. If punishments were actual punishments people actually might stop thinking of doing shit like this.
How did she get caught, hope it was an anonymous tip off by someone that knew what’s she was up to.
A massively ramped up and properly run Community Service scheme would benefit everyone.
We’re constantly told there’s not enough public money to keep public toilets open, to maintain various outdoor spaces etc. Every convicted fraudster (and other criminals who are not an immediate threat to society) should be made to work for minimum wage maintaining public infrastructure (cleaning toilets, mowing verges, litter picking, repainting walls etc) until their gains are repaid in full. For the amount it costs to hold each prisoner (£40k+ per year?) you could employ a staff member to oversee a team of these parasites to do something useful with their lives.
We are such wet wipes as a country. Put these people in shackles and send them down some mines somewhere for the remainder of their lives. If people thought they would have to slave away doing the worst possible jobs for their whole lives to provide some of the value back that they stole they might actually not commit crimes.
This will be going on all over the system by so many people. When people voice anger about the benefits system, this is what they are talking about. Disgusting people like this ruin a system that should be so great for the people in need. These people are pure scum.