Hallo allerseits, ich suche eine Wohnung, also im Web zu suchen und es gibt ein Problem: Die Kaltmiete und Warmmiete sind nicht klar (zumindest von meinem POV).

    Bitte fragen Sie, ob Sie beschreiben könnten, was was abdeckt?

    Chatgpt und Google OFC antworten auf mich, aber es gibt widersprüchliche Informationen. Besser von Einheimischen zu hören.

    Is “Gesamptmiete” includes Heizenkost and Stromm and Wasser?

    Die meiste Zeit besagt die Beiträge, dass Miete nicht HK und Stromm enthält, sondern das laut Miete Brutto oder Netto oder Gesampt?

    🥲BTW, diese Zahlen sind verrückt nach 40 m2 Wohnung. Ich kann vielleicht 2 Wochen auf die Visumanwendung warten, aber wäre es hilfreich? Ich plane für September und warte etwas mehr, da ich jeden Tag neuere Beiträge auf der Website sehe.

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    1. For some reason they are doing US-style and not adding VAT in the first image, who the fuck knows why, I have never seen it for an apartment‘s rent. You‘ll pay 611,11 € / mo Warmmiete, but its not 100% sure if utils are included.

    2. skystream434 on

      It is not clear from this whether Gesamtbelastung includes heating or not. Most often it includes only Betriebskosten (operating cost of whole building), Kaltmiete (cold rent without heating) and Tax (but here it says excluding MwSt) so tax is not part of it.

      Usually Strom (electricity) is not part of this, unless it is an all inclusive apartment (rare but they do exist in Austria)

    3. kaltmiete=just the price of the available space you rent
      warmmiete= including heating costs/water afaik, but when it comes to electricity i encountered differences, sometimes included sometimes not (bitte verbesserts mich, wenn ich falsch lieg)

      concerning the „Gesamtbelastung“, since its more than just the available space, Heating costs might be included.
      I would always just message the people and ask them whats included, most are friendly.

      the „exkl. Mwst“ means without VAT.

      and as a sidenote: 600 bucks for 40m^2 seems relatively cheap to me (living in salzburg).
      Depends largely on where you plan to go though. Yes, renting a flat in austria is very expensive at times.

    4. Kaltmiete is the charge for the flat only.

      Warmmiete includes water, heating, garbage collection(not sure if that’s the right term, English is not my native language)

      Electricity is usually not included but there are several providers you can choose from but you have to pay extra

      Edit: Heating doesn’t have to be included but it is in a high percentage of flats afaik

    5. Here some vocabulary

      Nettomiete: Rent the owner receives

      Bruttomiete: Rent you pay

      Betriebskosten: Costs that are payed for the whole house together (water, elevator, cleaning, monthly payments for upkeep, etc.)

      Now to the terms used at Willhaben

      Miete = Bruttomiete

      Gesamtbelastung = Bruttomiete + Betriebskosten

      Electricity and gas/heating are almost never mentioned, because they have nothing to do with the rent.

      TLDR: Just look at Gesamtbelastung. This is your Kaltmiete.

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