„The placard featured a drawing of the late Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah holding a pager to his face, with the words „beep, beep, beep““
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> The Telegraph published police interview footage in which an officer asked the counter-protester: „Do you think that showing this image to persons protesting who are clearly pro-Hezbollah and anti-Israel that by doing so would stir up racial hatred further than it is already?“
I was trying to say something clever about this, but I just can’t. I hope they were just ignorant or this was a failed way to try to prevent a riot they knew they had no chance to stop.
ConfusedQuarks on
This is what happens when you have vaguely written laws like the 2003 Communications act and the 2006 religious hatred act. It allows police to apply these laws arbitrarily.
benrinnes on
How can it be „racial harassment“ if both parties are Indo-Europeans?
811545b2-4ff7-4041 on
So, the guy who’s been charged is identified as being Jewish in the news headline, and the charge is „causing racially or religiously aggravated harassment, alarm or distress by words or writing.“ – but the ‚distressed‘ party is not identified in the argument, or defined.
Sounds like a wishy-washy law to me. Shouldn’t an anti-Hezbollah (proscribed as a terrorist organization since 2019) protest be legal? Who is it offending other than anyone who’s pro-Hezbollah?
Astriania on
You know what, although I think this charge is over the top, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If Israel wants to conflate political positions with ethnic and religious identity, and claim that any anti-Israel protest is antisemitic, then the same can apply to Arab Muslim Palestinians.
It takes some ridiculous cases like this to make people wake up and realise (i) how dumb and censorious the „incitement to racial or religious hatred“ law is, and (ii) how aggressively censorious the conflation of Israel and Judaism is.
honkballs on
Hey now, you can’t just go around saying mean things about terrorist groups, think of all the feelings you will hurt!
He should have listened to the rhyme they teach in schools now, sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will get you sent to prison.
thefunkygibbon on
so you get arrested if you’re showing a hamas flag. you get arrested if you’re showing a anti-hezbollah flag. yet we don’t arrest any of the thumbheads who fly st George’s cross flags who are the ones who are , statistically more likely to be actual law breaking criminals
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Which race was he harassing?
Surely asserting that an anti-Hezbollah sign constitutes racial harassment is, in itself, a racist claim since it effectively brands an entire race as supporters of a terrorist organisation?
Certainly if someone were to assert that an anti-Nazi sign constituted anti-white racism, I’d be massively offended at the assumption that all white people are nazis.
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„The placard featured a drawing of the late Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah holding a pager to his face, with the words „beep, beep, beep““
> The Telegraph published police interview footage in which an officer asked the counter-protester: „Do you think that showing this image to persons protesting who are clearly pro-Hezbollah and anti-Israel that by doing so would stir up racial hatred further than it is already?“
I was trying to say something clever about this, but I just can’t. I hope they were just ignorant or this was a failed way to try to prevent a riot they knew they had no chance to stop.
This is what happens when you have vaguely written laws like the 2003 Communications act and the 2006 religious hatred act. It allows police to apply these laws arbitrarily.
How can it be „racial harassment“ if both parties are Indo-Europeans?
So, the guy who’s been charged is identified as being Jewish in the news headline, and the charge is „causing racially or religiously aggravated harassment, alarm or distress by words or writing.“ – but the ‚distressed‘ party is not identified in the argument, or defined.
Sounds like a wishy-washy law to me. Shouldn’t an anti-Hezbollah (proscribed as a terrorist organization since 2019) protest be legal? Who is it offending other than anyone who’s pro-Hezbollah?
You know what, although I think this charge is over the top, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If Israel wants to conflate political positions with ethnic and religious identity, and claim that any anti-Israel protest is antisemitic, then the same can apply to Arab Muslim Palestinians.
It takes some ridiculous cases like this to make people wake up and realise (i) how dumb and censorious the „incitement to racial or religious hatred“ law is, and (ii) how aggressively censorious the conflation of Israel and Judaism is.
Hey now, you can’t just go around saying mean things about terrorist groups, think of all the feelings you will hurt!
He should have listened to the rhyme they teach in schools now, sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will get you sent to prison.
so you get arrested if you’re showing a hamas flag. you get arrested if you’re showing a anti-hezbollah flag. yet we don’t arrest any of the thumbheads who fly st George’s cross flags who are the ones who are , statistically more likely to be actual law breaking criminals
Which race was he harassing?
Surely asserting that an anti-Hezbollah sign constitutes racial harassment is, in itself, a racist claim since it effectively brands an entire race as supporters of a terrorist organisation?
Certainly if someone were to assert that an anti-Nazi sign constituted anti-white racism, I’d be massively offended at the assumption that all white people are nazis.