America has proven to be a threat to Canada and the world. At the very best, America is a mentally ill neighbor who refuses to stay on their meds. It would be very foolish to just forget when a mentally ill toddler is at the helm.
Uberduck333 on
What’s irksome about this is that’s there’s no self awareness the visit is in response to their aggressive behaviour, nor is there any “sorry, we didn’t mean to upset”. His comments are all low key insulting
Step_Plastic on
Quote: „‚If there’s a message in there, there’s easier ways to send messages. Just give me a call. [Mark] Carney can call the president at any time.'“
We’re choosing to send a message this way because your President decided to be completely ignorant of the message the entire country was sending to him for the last 5 months. Carney does not need to call anybody – your President needs to start learning some basic decency and respect for others.
GQ_Quinobi on
Can’t we demand embassy staff change if they represent a threat to the country even it’s overwhelming incompetence?
wet_suit_one on
Well…
We could have sent someone to Washington to kick Trump right in the brisket, but this seemed much more dignified, so…
Impressive-Ice-9392 on
Who is this guy? He comes to our country and tells us what we can and can not say in the house of commons. What next? Is he going to tell Canadian what to say, when to say it?
travis- on
This guy is an absolute blow hard. Its no wonder Trump picked him. Hes tone deaf and can’t read the room. Or worse, he can and is wilfully ignorant.
DDB- on
> „Move on. If the Canadians want to keep talking about it — that’s their business. I’m not talking about it; Donald Trump is not talking about it. We’ve got too much on our plate to move forward because we’re all about increasing America’s prosperity, safety and security.“
Trump isn’t talking about it until he is again. He’s proven he’s unreliable and prone to change his mind, so there’s really no reason to have any goodwill towards the American government because they’ve given zero reason for us to give it to them.
UncleDaddy_00 on
This guy’s a jerk and is a poor representative of Americans. Or maybe is a good one, but whatever he is he can go pound sand.
GooeyPig on
>“Move on. If the Canadians want to keep talking about it — that’s their business. I’m not talking about it; Donald Trump is not talking about it. We’ve got too much on our plate to move forward because we’re all about increasing America’s prosperity, safety and security.“
First, the „move on“ shit is the language of abusers. „Just forget about that horrible thing I did to you, I’m not doing it anymore, why are you being mean to me?“
Second, the annexation threats were supposedly about increasing America’s prosperity etc. There’s no guarantee they won’t come back.
>“We’re waiting, I think, and believing that the ball is in Canada’s court to outline what they would like to do, maybe some proposals and those types of things,“ the U.S. ambassador added.
For fucks sake. The only reason we’re having these talks is because the US imposed blanket tariffs to:
1. Balance the trade deficit that no one in this administration seems to understand.
2. Fix the border which does have a porosity problem, only in the opposite direction than what they believe.
3. To force us to accept annexation.
How about the Americans tell us what they actually want instead of beating around the bush and hoping we kowtow?
Fuck this fascist toady.
Crabbyrob on
The Americans are worried about their frayed relationship with us. Hoekstra has done a couple of interviews here now, and I noticed the former American ambassador to Canada did an interview in the last couple of days as well. The message was the same, „it’s over now. Your reaction went overboard, and you need to drop it and get over it.“ That’s screams of worry. They shot themselves and all their allies in the foot and want us to forgive and forget. No apologies. No asking for forgiveness and no dropping the ridiculous tariffs. Fuck these twits.
jacetec on
Hoekstra is acting incredibly insufferably, and I’m wondering if it’s truly the only way to keep your job in this administration. Act like the biggest densest jerk in the room.
Gauntlet101010 on
It’s not just a message to the US. It’s a message to the UK and to Europe the we want closer ties to that continent.
*It ain’t all about you.*
t0m0hawk on
Well, we did and have continued to tell Trump that we aren’t interested in joining the union. But words don’t seem to work because it kept going.
So now, they’re upset that we’re affirming our sovereignty by asking our head of state to open the new parliament? How scandalous of us.
skip6235 on
I don’t give a rat’s ass what the U.S. ambassador thinks about the Head of State of Canada giving a throne speech, which is 100% within his right to do so as King.
And I’m saying that as both a dual U.S. citizen and anti-monarchist.
zoziw on
I don’t think it is a message to the US so much as a message to Canadians that we aren’t alone and our PM has serious connections in Europe.
I posted when this whole thing began that a Royal Tour would be a nice morale boost for many Canadians. Given the health of the King, this is probably the more realistic option.
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America has proven to be a threat to Canada and the world. At the very best, America is a mentally ill neighbor who refuses to stay on their meds. It would be very foolish to just forget when a mentally ill toddler is at the helm.
What’s irksome about this is that’s there’s no self awareness the visit is in response to their aggressive behaviour, nor is there any “sorry, we didn’t mean to upset”. His comments are all low key insulting
Quote: „‚If there’s a message in there, there’s easier ways to send messages. Just give me a call. [Mark] Carney can call the president at any time.'“
We’re choosing to send a message this way because your President decided to be completely ignorant of the message the entire country was sending to him for the last 5 months. Carney does not need to call anybody – your President needs to start learning some basic decency and respect for others.
Can’t we demand embassy staff change if they represent a threat to the country even it’s overwhelming incompetence?
Well…
We could have sent someone to Washington to kick Trump right in the brisket, but this seemed much more dignified, so…
Who is this guy? He comes to our country and tells us what we can and can not say in the house of commons. What next? Is he going to tell Canadian what to say, when to say it?
This guy is an absolute blow hard. Its no wonder Trump picked him. Hes tone deaf and can’t read the room. Or worse, he can and is wilfully ignorant.
> „Move on. If the Canadians want to keep talking about it — that’s their business. I’m not talking about it; Donald Trump is not talking about it. We’ve got too much on our plate to move forward because we’re all about increasing America’s prosperity, safety and security.“
Trump isn’t talking about it until he is again. He’s proven he’s unreliable and prone to change his mind, so there’s really no reason to have any goodwill towards the American government because they’ve given zero reason for us to give it to them.
This guy’s a jerk and is a poor representative of Americans. Or maybe is a good one, but whatever he is he can go pound sand.
>“Move on. If the Canadians want to keep talking about it — that’s their business. I’m not talking about it; Donald Trump is not talking about it. We’ve got too much on our plate to move forward because we’re all about increasing America’s prosperity, safety and security.“
First, the „move on“ shit is the language of abusers. „Just forget about that horrible thing I did to you, I’m not doing it anymore, why are you being mean to me?“
Second, the annexation threats were supposedly about increasing America’s prosperity etc. There’s no guarantee they won’t come back.
>“We’re waiting, I think, and believing that the ball is in Canada’s court to outline what they would like to do, maybe some proposals and those types of things,“ the U.S. ambassador added.
For fucks sake. The only reason we’re having these talks is because the US imposed blanket tariffs to:
1. Balance the trade deficit that no one in this administration seems to understand.
2. Fix the border which does have a porosity problem, only in the opposite direction than what they believe.
3. To force us to accept annexation.
How about the Americans tell us what they actually want instead of beating around the bush and hoping we kowtow?
Fuck this fascist toady.
The Americans are worried about their frayed relationship with us. Hoekstra has done a couple of interviews here now, and I noticed the former American ambassador to Canada did an interview in the last couple of days as well. The message was the same, „it’s over now. Your reaction went overboard, and you need to drop it and get over it.“ That’s screams of worry. They shot themselves and all their allies in the foot and want us to forgive and forget. No apologies. No asking for forgiveness and no dropping the ridiculous tariffs. Fuck these twits.
Hoekstra is acting incredibly insufferably, and I’m wondering if it’s truly the only way to keep your job in this administration. Act like the biggest densest jerk in the room.
It’s not just a message to the US. It’s a message to the UK and to Europe the we want closer ties to that continent.
*It ain’t all about you.*
Well, we did and have continued to tell Trump that we aren’t interested in joining the union. But words don’t seem to work because it kept going.
So now, they’re upset that we’re affirming our sovereignty by asking our head of state to open the new parliament? How scandalous of us.
I don’t give a rat’s ass what the U.S. ambassador thinks about the Head of State of Canada giving a throne speech, which is 100% within his right to do so as King.
And I’m saying that as both a dual U.S. citizen and anti-monarchist.
I don’t think it is a message to the US so much as a message to Canadians that we aren’t alone and our PM has serious connections in Europe.
I posted when this whole thing began that a Royal Tour would be a nice morale boost for many Canadians. Given the health of the King, this is probably the more realistic option.