Dieser Artikel enthält Details zu den vielen Mängel, die die Idee der „goldenen Kuppel“ nicht verarbeitbar machen. Diese Einwände gibt es schon seit Ronald Reagan, der die Idee in den 1980er Jahren vorgeschlagen hat, und sie sind heute noch wahrer. Der Vorschlag „Golden Dome“ befasst sich mit Raketen vom Typ ICBM, aber sie sind bereits veraltet. Der Vorschlag „Golden Dome“ hat noch weniger Chance gegen Hyperschallraketen, die bei Mach 20 reisen.
Stellen Sie sich eine Frage – die Idee von 175 Milliarden US -Dollar „Golden Dome“ -Idee erfordert 36.000 Satelliten. Gibt es einen bestimmten Südafrikaner im Zentrum der US -Regierung, der diese Idee möglicherweise vorantreibt, weil er der Mann ist, der die meisten dieser 175 Milliarden Dollar für die Versorgung und den Start von ihnen bekommt?
Experts say the US's $175 billion 'golden dome' missile defense idea is a fantasy that is impossible to make work.
byu/lughnasadh inFuturology
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It’s a grift, same as nearly anything this regime pushes into law.
Handing SpaceX contracts to do squat is impossible?
the bigger issue is that it could be feasible but it most certainly is not going to cost $175 billion. i would at the minimum quadruple the cost. were talking about covering the entire (at least continental) united states in a shield from missile attacks. just to include covering hawaii and alaska in that would probly double the cost again, and theyre probly the two most likely states to be attacked in any war anyways.
Even if the technology advances to the point that the system is viably functional, China has already indicated this would kick off an arms race. In very short order China will have the world’s largest economy and meanwhile the US will be saddled with massive debt. In the long run they’ll win an arms race. The only use I see for this system is if we intend to perform a first strike on China which sounds crazy even as I typed that.
This is just theatre, like Reagan’s star wars plan.
My guess is that it’s another boondoggle like the “Star Wars” program was for Reagan.
„impossible to make work“
It will work perfectly at its intended purpose – funneling endless amounts of tax payer money to private contractors.
We already know. Everyone knows.
It’s a grift for Elon Musk and SpaceX. It’s blatant, open air corruption.
Musk is thee ultimate overpromises and underdelivers champion.
Oh, I’m sure they can get something working for $1 trillion. The contractors will just string us along and say they’re almost there, we need just another couple hundred billion. Sigh.
its what Trump wants to give defense contractors to make up for all the loses of international weapons sales because of his unstable foreign policy doctorine.
I think Trump is excited by this because he confused Golden Dome with Golden Shower.
It is like the old star wars from the Reagan years, to give China to over spend it military budget while it also fighting a war in Taiwan. Too bad history would not repeat itself.
Which it is, just like every other idea in the orange cheeto’s head.
Better to throw away $175 billion on pure fantasy than spending it to help actual people in need in the country.
We’re not throwing money away, We’re giving military defense contractors money to make this bridge to nowhere. This will help prop up the rich people’s yacht money line. Think of the economy.
Not sarcasm.
Thing is, we have already lost and it didn’t take missiles to do it.
It’s expensive and Musk is getting lots of money. That’s good enough for current US admin.
Just what the world wants and needs, a bunch of armed space craft all pointed at earth. These people are 3rd grade level stupid.
It doesnt have to work. It just has to sound cool, and taxpayers will have to shill out.
If only the Trump admin had befriended someone in the aeronauts, space, and tech industries, they would be first in line to those sweet, sweet government grants.
I’m off the opinion that it could easily be made to work. The real issue is hypersonic missiles there are designed to work against these systems. So no real point in making one
A Republican defense boondoggle? Where have I seen this before? [Oh right…](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative)
Basically they want a vehicle that deorbits from low earth orbit, maintain communication with satellites, know its exact bearing which is an ICBM going over in a couple of machs speed, actively steer itself towards it, while not melting in the superheated plasma. Good fucking luck.
For much more money they could probably replicate the iron dome over similar areas, like important logistic areas, high density populations, manufacturing hubs, etc.
Would still cost hundreds of billions more than $175B, but at least it would be somewhat believable.
For reference the iron dome over Israel was ~$6B, and covers an area ~400x smaller than the USA. Closer to ~$10B in today’s money.
Portions of the wall fell. I don’t think the dome is going to receive any better attention.
As a retired air defense artillery officer, I can explain the economics of missile defense. It will always cost more to make something that can destroy a missile than it does to make the missile. Think about how much more technologically advanced a Patriot missile has to be than a SCUD. It has to be able to target and hit that SCUD while both are moving thousands of miles an hour. The SCUD, on the other hand, just has to fly. This is why you can never defend everything. You have to make a priority list of things you want defended and focus your limited air defense assets accordingly. The enemy can always launch too many missiles, drones, artillery, bombs, etc for you to defend all of them at the same time.
„Golden Dome“ is a reference to Tr*mp’s impenetrable head.
I’d curious if there’s a more detailed article about this. What orbits are they assuming and how many satellites are they assuming per orbit?
We’ll spend $100 billion over the next couple of years to Republican contractors… Dems will win the next election and cancel the stupidity and we’ll have nothing to show for it.
I think the kernel of truth here is that military planners probably DID want to improve missile defense in a broad sense given the heightened potential for conflict with China in the coming years.
China has a signifnicantly smaller nuclear arsenal than the United States, so this could be a way to hedge for the future to tilt the scale a bit. Basically, to add some additional pressure and uncertainty for Chinese leader’s nuclear response policy. I.E. If there was a 5% chance that they might use nukes in a way then maybe with improved missile defense it goes down to 3 or 4% chance.
Unfortunately the Trump admin lacks both competence and subtlety so upon hearing a brief of course they’d go all in because Trump likes big huge projects that he can slap his name onto. So it goes from „hey lets budget some $$$ for this so that we can begin to prepare for the possible new capabilities of more advanced missiles from potential adversaries in 10-20 years time“ to „WE NEED AN IMPENETRABLE GOLDEN DOME.“
The funny thing is that USAID really was a golden dome that worked. Spend money on lifting people up and they’re a lot less likely to lash out violently at you. You don’t have to worry about missiles that aren’t shot at you.
Resistance had something similar, but even in that game’s fictional setting, it didn’t work.
Any sober, sane person knows it’s bullshit. What’s outrageous is so many sane sober people don’t care as long as they’re told that the people they hate will be unhappy.
How about we concentrate on landing planes without collisions and radar systems that are modernized and don’t blip out in the night.
How are you assuming most will go to launching?
How about instead we give the contract to NASA with 0 SpaceX contribution?
Space X could launch 36,000 satellites:
**$16.8 billion for launches + $18 billion for satellites = $34 billion**
Space X cost per launch = $28 million (600 launches with 60 satellites per launch)
Space X Satellites cost $500,000 each, and less with mass production over time.
NASA could launch 36,000 satellites:
**$60-90 billion for launches + $36 billion for satellites = $100 billion-$126 billion (+bloat + setbacks and delays)**
NASA launch using non-Space X Rockets ranges from:
ULA’s Vulcan Centaur (~$100–$150 million per launch) x 600 launches = $60-90 billion
Boeing’s SLS (~$1 billion per launch) x 600 launches = $600 billion
NASA launching WITH Space X Falcon 9 = $67 million x 600 launches = $40.2 billion
NASA satellites at $1-10 million each (NASA’s smallsat programs (e.g., CubeSats) can cost $1–$10 million per unit) – So lets assume low end $1 million x 36,000 = $36 billion