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    1. eatyourbeanzz on

      Its real muddy , so much optics involved from multiple angles its wild . 

      I’m really scratching my head on why the CPC thinks battkfeild/crowfoot is a smart move unless they’re really freaked out nationally on how much they trust Peirres support . 

      Food for thought,

      Now I haven’t looked at these polls to hard but there’s two scenarios 

      A) they split the demographics so the poll reached a equal amount of rural vs urban voters 

      Or 

      b) they just randomly selected participants with out geography considered 

      Option A potentially leaves a heavy risk if a independent sepertist were to run in battlefield/crowfoot they could really give PP a run for his money lol 

      Option B less risk but still a substantial amount of votes that could look ugly next to Peirres name on the count . 

      Like if he wins 80% to 20% sepertist would that still not leave a bad taste in Canadians mouth? 

      I’m leaning towards B 
      I really think the CPC is in trouble and beleive their frantic attempts at showing complete confidence is the indicator that things are not as they would like their voters to believe. 

    2. UnderWatered on

      Hilarious, putting aside the fact that the pro separation faction would get crushed in a referendum, the question is continually asked about the four Western provinces breaking off. 2/3 of British Columbia’s population lives in extremely large and dense urban areas, they would never ever vote to separate.

    3. There is going to be a referendum on Alberta separatism next year, and people don’t seem to realize the threat that is being posed here. Smith is playing with very dangerous forces that seek to tear the country apart, and then gets offended when people call separatists traitors. We have a hostile neighbour to the south, and Smith’s genius plan was to stoke the fire of separatism the same day that Carney went to Washington. We can only count ourselves lucky that Trump seems to not care about anything that Smith says, instead of trying to turn it into a wedge during the visit.

      Plenty of people seem to be downplaying the consequences of separation, claiming that Albertans can secede and still retain their Canadian citizenship, which is complete nonsense. The consequences of this should not be downplayed, since it would only allow the numbers to grow higher.

      Ultimately, even if Alberta votes to secede, I don’t think Canada will allow that to happen, but a danger is posed if the US decides to get involved here.

    4. TheWaySheHoes on

      It’s actually surprising to see Edmonton a little more “curious” on this issue than Calgary. Though that could be cross-tab noise.

      Still, Calgary is full of white collar business types. They vote Tory like its their damn duty but business also HATES instability. So in a way its not that shocking.

      In any case: Alberta seperation is DOA and this whole thing is a waste of time. Calgary and Edmonton would vote against this nonsense 80-20.

    5. I think part of the interesting future discussion will be old school Tory vs neocon revolutionary. White collar business types love the right for stability,
      continuity and laisse-faire capitalism — all things the ‘burn it back a hundred years’ version of regressive culture war neocons detest. Suddenly radical changes in policy? Yup. Disregard of long-standing norms? Yup. A very casual relationship with the rule of law (including contract law?) yup. Dangerous turf
      If you’re a mineral extraction company with millions of investments in contracted land rights, site development and equipment. I’d be unsurprised if Carney is their natural ally, they just have trouble seeing it at the moment because they think they could maybe get a better short term deal elsewhere, and many of the new MBAs only plan ahead a quarter at a time.

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