Amerika befindet sich in einer späten Republikbühne wie Rom | Noema
Amerika befindet sich in einer späten Republikbühne wie Rom | Noema
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SS: Is America today in a late republic stage much like the one ancient Rome experienced?
Niall Ferguson sits down for an interview with Noema’s Nathan Gardes to discuss what worries him most about the future of the country, as both an American & a historian in a wide-ranging conversation on the state of geopolitics, Trump and where we’re at in the cycles of history today.
This analogy is overused, especially by those who overlook the real reasons behind the political instability of the American republic. Like Rome, the United States faces a situation where imperialism primarily benefits the upper class, while the lower classes—educated and politically active—use their electoral power to support demagogues who promise to challenge that elite. The Roman Republic ultimately fell because the Senate refused to implement any meaningful reforms—see the example of the Gracchi brothers. Over time, this resistance led the populares to overthrow the system entirely, replacing it with what was essentially the first Bonapartist regime: the Roman Empire.
It is true that there are many similarities between the US and the late Roman republic but I have a whole bachelors studying this period of history and the differences between the 2 are just as important. Roman society had a far far more unequal distribution of wealth and the populace cared far less about political ideology than the modern US. People back then were willing to accept Caesar and later Augustus’s authoritarianism because they weren’t really involved in politics anyway and desperately needed the economic reforms he was pushing. Any attempt to truly turn the US into an autocracy is going to meet a ton of resistance from the population and other entrenched institutions like the military. It is true that the US is undergoing a period of political instability but it’s not yet guaranteed that it ends with authoritarianism. It’s quite possible, I’d say even likely, that Trump fails to amass the necessary power to bring down American democracy.
I been hearing this analogy since the George W Bush era. It never fails to make me roll my eyes. It’s in the same energy as hearing „Empires on average last 250 years“ which conveniently America is close to in length. Like yes, there are similarities but tons of crucial differences that it isn’t a good 1-1 analogy“
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>The Geopolitics and Globalization Program, home to the 21st Century Council, focuses on two projects: Thriving in a Transactional International Order, which is aimed at building a forward-looking model of the international system that focuses on liberal outcomes without relying on the revival of anachronistic institutions, and Promoting US-China Dialogue on AI & Security, which is responsible for the three „Understanding China“ conferences in Beijing since its inception.
Neoliberal bullshit.
> Guy who has only seen The Boss Baby, watching his second movie: Getting a lot of ‚Boss Baby‘ vibes from this…
As a rule of thumb, people compare everything to WW2 and the Romans because they don’t really know anything about anything else, not because it’s a good analogy.
It’s not going the Roman path but it is diminishing its power by overextending, so in that regard there are similarities. Rome collapsed because it could no longer defend itself with its own citizens.
The US has the largest armed civilian population and is somewhat xenophobic so it probably won’t let the Vandals and the Goths take over.