Persönlich glaube ich, dass die Steuernarbeit bereits zu hoch ist und nur verringert werden sollte, um Menschen für ihre Arbeit zu belohnen. Es gibt absolut keinen Raum, um es zu erhöhen.
Darüber hinaus wird es mit bevorstehenden Altersvorsorgereformen auch nicht viel Platz geben, um das Rentenalter weiter zu steigern.
Mit zunehmendem Defizit und Angesichts der oben genannten Zeit ist es höchste Zeit, über den Elefanten im Raum zu beginnen – das passive Einkommen der reichen Menschen in Belgien. Die Besteuerung des Vermögens kann Milliarden generieren und gleichzeitig keinen Einfluss auf die Arbeiterklasse haben. Häufiger Zeit, um die zweite und dritte (usw.) Wohnung/House höher zu steuern, Steuererträge für Miete höher, die ordnungsgemäße Kapitalertragssteuer (mit Befreiungssumme) einführen. Es ist unglaublich, dass meine Arbeit auf 40%besteuert wird, während reiche Menschen mehrere Immobilien mieten können und gleichzeitig um ein Vielfaches niedrigere Steuern zahlen können.
Entscheidend ist, dass all dies – für Familien der Arbeiterklasse mit einzelnen Wohnungen/Haus- und begrenzten Vermögenswerten (Mehrheit der Belgier) – buchstäblich keine Auswirkungen haben wird (kein Mieteinkommen, kein zweites Eigentum, keinen großen Summe investiert).
Deficit projected to further rise in both 2025 and 2026 to 5.5% – high time to start discussion on taxing wealth in Belgium
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Von absurdherowaw
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The goverment gets more then enough money already, the problem is waste/frivolous spending . You don’t put out a fire by throwing more fuel onto it.
Belgium generates the second most revenue per capita, only France does better, with taxes and contributions.
This is not about more revenue. This is about (among others) being too generous with benefits, letting everyone and their mother (literally lmao) in, funding every fart NGO, setting up rules that need enforcement through more government and then subsidizing stuff that said rules are going to be forced upon.
A second home is also not wealth imo, and taxing it will just further increase rent prices anyway.
as I have previously posted, the issue is not on the income side
and sure taxing landlords sounds great – do you rent OP? will your children? it will be a lot more expensive if they tax landlords, are you ready for netherlands-style rents?
and this is so funny “with limited assets but owning a house or apartment” those are pretty big assets, why shouldn’t a wealth tax tax the value of those then? oh maybe because now you’re affected OP?
The Belgian state is like an obese patient. First it has to go on a diet and only then it can think about surgery (read: additional taxes).
Or if it can magically find its free Ozempic we are all saved.
It’s funny how you consider welfare expenditure (pensions, chômage, etc..) as a given right to citizens . Maybe before increasing taxes, it would be lovely to do 0% deficit with the current state of fiscal policies.
When taxing wealth, beware also about the difference between the de iure tax payer and the de facto tax payer. If you consider housing or any other estate property, you can tax the owner, which as a result will drop the tax on the one renting it.
Then of course you can reply to me by going full USSR and say that renting prices must be decided by the government and enjoy the Breznev vibes…
One option is also to make the income side bigger by investing in the economy this can be done by cutting taxes or creating an environment that encourages entrepreneurship. Both things we are not doing atm.
A state can have deficits and make debts if it is for investments. Definition of an investment is that you will get a return in the future. Most of what we spend with our state doesn’t give any return and is not an investment.
It is even worse. We are borrowing money at an higher cost every year because we cannot cut our spending. Which means we are spending billions on repaying our debts with a huge interest.
Our social security is only funded for 50 % by RSZ and patronale bijdragen. That is the real problem. 13,5 % + 25 % every month for every worker is not enough.
No. Belgium is the third most heavily taxed country in Europe when it comes to wealth. What we really need is to cut costs.
There are only two ways our politicians know how to get money and that’s either raising/inventing new taxes or cut spending. There lies the problem. Anything alternative gets shot down by other politicians.
Or it can deduce spending, like the lowest hanging fruit: cut all bloody governments, merge all communes in Bxl and voila
Our government gets more than enough money, we need to drastically cut spending.
Fact it took this long to get a capital gains tax was crazy. Benefits will start rolling in, but it’s way too low. Raise it a bit higher.
The solution is a compromise – more wealth taxes are needed, but the situation in Brussels with 19 communes + bloated state is just a waste. Lots of public servants plus politicians and their staff are unnecessary at commune and even state level.
There should also be debate on the need for Wallonian and Flemish representation. It’s a country of 11 million people, you don’t need all these politicians around, and the cultural representation with lavish salaries and perks is just an indulgence.
A well-resourced and balanced local and federal government is enough to run the country this small. I don’t care if I’m an ignorant outsider, the French and Flemish stuff can be represented without needing to a pay a bunch of politicians and hangers on to deliver it.
There’s too many cops also standing around doing nothing in every part of the country, clearly surplus to requirements as well. Another cut.
A bit of deregulation (ie. In tech) wouldn’t hurt either. Maybe to supplement the pension, you could also have a mandatory private pension that employers must contribute to every year.
That private pension must in turn invest either in Belgium or overseas, like a quasi-wealth fund. There’s a both market and high tax/redistribution solution to these issues, but I don’t think people are serious enough to do what is necessary to solve it.
Within 10 years the economy would be pumping and you wouldn’t need to touch a single social program or health or education to make it happen.
The easy answer, tax the rich (which of course will be the first ones to transfer their wealth to another country)
Think the government as your home. For one reason or another, you are in debt. Credit cards, car, mortgage.
You are receiving new loans to finance your lifestyle. What would you do? Either find a much better job (increase your earnings) or cut spending or a combination.
Public transportation is very cheap in Belgium compared to other countries.
Employment rate. There are many people doing nothing. If they will start working, we will all benefit from it.
Cut spending. I love all these parks in Brussels and I want more, but maybe for a few years we should reduce public works.
We need to cut small and big.
People against taxing the ultra rich have no idea on how much money those people are sit.
Read this book from a professor at the University of Utrecht: https://www.uu.nl/en/in-de-media/what-is-limitarianism-professor-ingrid-robeyns-explains
The solution is not „more taxes“ the solution is „better allocation“.
We’ve basically always had a deficit, unless [this](https://www.statista.com/statistics/328983/belgium-budget-balance-in-relation-to-gdp/) is wrong. Why should we change anything? We’ll just kick the can down the road for the next suckers
Cant wait what new taxes are we going to get….
Or a progressive tax on total wealth over a lifetime. Give people something to work for, not to pay for pensions at least.
Belgium should not start taxing more. It should start spending less.