I look forward to reading the next Farage column in the TORYgraph.
Dizzy-Caterpillar468 on
Not a huge fan of Farage, but surely everyone agrees that *at some point,* we will need to go through a massive restructuring of the way the economy works though? And you would think that the sooner that happens the better – as things will get progressively worse until it breaks down anyway. Doesn’t really matter if you’re on the left or the right at this point.
It is ridiculous really that we have an system where workers shoulder so much of the tax burden whilst large corporations, which syphon off money in local economies to global shareholders, pay next to nothing (comparatively.)
Turning the tax system on it’s head (ie, taxing corporations more than the people) would undoubtably lead to immediate economic challenges, but long term do we really have a choice? Unless we’re happy to have everything owned by a small number of umbrella corporations.
No_Cucumber3978 on
Have zero love for Farage or his populist and largely undemocratic policies that sound good on paper, but would largely be unworkable under the current climate.
But the level of PR campaigning since their local council wins by the main two political parties is nauseatingly 1984.
The desperation from both Labour and Conservatives to keep the U.K in a two-party system is nauseating. The greens and Lib Dems have themselves to blame of course, and, Reform is a questionable front for a newfangled nationalist proforma.
But this level of propaganda is straight up chorus-line political mysticism that is above and beyond the reason why we need more political colour within the UK. The big boys are realising you can’t inherently ring-fence folk any more and I wholeheartedly get why Reform are gaining favour amongst the country. I just don’t agree with him.
That doesn’t mean I will churn out „They’ll crash the economy“ to anyone who supports them. Thanks for the suggestion though Torygraph.
No-Relationship8261 on
Given that Labour is doing everything Reform says and more. I don’t think we will need to wait that long.
They are already in charge.
Not_Alpha_Centaurian on
They could have „we’ll trigger a violent sterling crisis“ in their next „contract“ but it wouldn’t make a lick of difference to their voter base.
Elemayowe on
Yeah but what do *expert economists* know really?
Ar Nige is just going to use *common sense* to fix this nation.
ThisCouldBeDumber on
Christ the „find out“ phase is going to be depressing
Lando7373 on
This will be dubbed project fear 2.0. Until it becomes protect reality and chumps who voted for it will still somehow blame Labour.
Diligent_Example4972 on
Possibly so but what chance do we have a few generations down the line if Reform doesn’t get into power? The country would be unrecognisable! I was born in 86 (almost 40 now) and the changes over the years in terms of immigration has been unreal. You only have to go onto the old bbc archive videos on YouTube to see places like Scarborough in the late sixty’s / seventies to today and the difference, 99% Christian white Brits.
Our culture and identity as a country is rapidly disappearing and becoming a minority in your own country in the next 50,60 years just stinks. This is not a racial rant but we have to be realistic here. The free loaders have to go home and Starmer needs to grow a back bone instead of selling his own people out.
ucardiologist on
Nigel farage has also promised to abolish the monarchy that alone will save tax payers at least 100 billions.
lithaborn on
Farage is quite good at triggering immediate violence
ShondaVanda on
Well yeah, you don’t give crazy the wheel to the car. Did we learn nothing from the Lettuce?
lNFORMATlVE on
Pretty ironic that the party which most overtly promises to “save us” from immigrants coming from terrible economies is the one most prone and probable to abruptly make our economy terrible if they got into power.
Ironic but not surprising.
ItsDominare on
Reform: We’re going to abolish waiting lists and income tax!
Everyone: How?
Richard Tice: Oh grow up
BritanniaGlory on
Has anyone considered that they’re unlikely to implement their manifesto policies?
Both this government and the previous ones broke manifesto promises on not raising tax so they could shore up their fiscal positions.
Why would reform be any different?
iamezekiel1_14 on
Let’s not deny the will of the people right? The will of the people has often done well for this country in recent years like the Legendary vote of 2016 to protect our freedom and sovereignty. How dare someone want to take this from us.
Useful_Resolution888 on
I’m willing to bet that some people would make a lot of money from this scenario.
PapaCrunch2022 on
Farage once again just jacking off his base
Whilst there are some broadly popular policies here, there are some massively divisive ones, and some that genuinely don’t make a lot of sense
Mysto-Max on
Didn’t Nigel say Liz Truss’s mini budget was the best or something ?
lookingreadingreddit on
Does a sterling crisis mean my mortgage rate goes down or up?
desertterminator on
All the headlines in the world will not be enough to stop what’s coming, they’ve been trying for over a decade now and this guy just gets bigger. He’s anti-establishment, or at least is viewed that way, so when the establishment attacks him it just boosts his image even more for those who are in favour of or considering him.
Interesting_Celery74 on
Someone please explain to me why people who were frustrated with the Tories want Reform in power, when a whole host of their MPs are literally Tories. I do not get it.
novaGT1 on
It’s so difficult to see the British version of MAGA gain traction now.
It just feels so stupid even as a thought that people are looking across the Atlantic and thinking we need some of that…. MUKGA
Comfortable_Neat_274 on
Heard this same stupid crap with brexit. Instant recession- instant 500,000 jobs lost- instantly our internal hyperbole radar would collapse…. Oh wait!
Fast_Apple_2237 on
„Hedge-ho, Hedge-ho
It’s of to the markets we go.“
Just like Nigel and his mates did with brexit.
BugPsychological4836 on
Who decides the future of a country the voters or the bankers
Quick-Taste4204 on
They would vote anybody in, they’ve proved it this time with the council worker that can’t stand and the one that wants to jump ship asap!! Reform voters vote for an ideology that isn’t real. It’s not going to happen and if it does, it will destroy the country!! They haven’t got a clie
WaitingForAHairCut on
I really want to do something about Reform. I feel like they’re so easy to attack, they have so many flaws, they’re not hardened politicians they’re a mess. An embarrassment. They’re going to drive this country off a cliff but are starting to look like a real threat. The public needs to be educated.
I’m thinking a website to organise and offer a pull for bringing in people but in the lead up to the election, big billboards and bus stop posters attacking individual MP’s in constituencies that they could win with facts.
I have the ability to put most of this together, I have the resources to do so. What I don’t have is lots of time and I think this project is bigger than just one person.
Is anyone else interested in doing something similar? The perfect situation would be a grassroots project with people donating their time and skills to achieving the goal of damaging reforms public pull.
huntsab2090 on
Same playbook as trump wrecking the usa but exactly like trump his weird follows will believe anything they say unless they murder a child .
Anywhere_everywhere7 on
The same would happen if any other party except Labour or Tories got in power because it’s the unknown.
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I look forward to reading the next Farage column in the TORYgraph.
Not a huge fan of Farage, but surely everyone agrees that *at some point,* we will need to go through a massive restructuring of the way the economy works though? And you would think that the sooner that happens the better – as things will get progressively worse until it breaks down anyway. Doesn’t really matter if you’re on the left or the right at this point.
It is ridiculous really that we have an system where workers shoulder so much of the tax burden whilst large corporations, which syphon off money in local economies to global shareholders, pay next to nothing (comparatively.)
Turning the tax system on it’s head (ie, taxing corporations more than the people) would undoubtably lead to immediate economic challenges, but long term do we really have a choice? Unless we’re happy to have everything owned by a small number of umbrella corporations.
Have zero love for Farage or his populist and largely undemocratic policies that sound good on paper, but would largely be unworkable under the current climate.
But the level of PR campaigning since their local council wins by the main two political parties is nauseatingly 1984.
The desperation from both Labour and Conservatives to keep the U.K in a two-party system is nauseating. The greens and Lib Dems have themselves to blame of course, and, Reform is a questionable front for a newfangled nationalist proforma.
But this level of propaganda is straight up chorus-line political mysticism that is above and beyond the reason why we need more political colour within the UK. The big boys are realising you can’t inherently ring-fence folk any more and I wholeheartedly get why Reform are gaining favour amongst the country. I just don’t agree with him.
That doesn’t mean I will churn out „They’ll crash the economy“ to anyone who supports them. Thanks for the suggestion though Torygraph.
Given that Labour is doing everything Reform says and more. I don’t think we will need to wait that long.
They are already in charge.
They could have „we’ll trigger a violent sterling crisis“ in their next „contract“ but it wouldn’t make a lick of difference to their voter base.
Yeah but what do *expert economists* know really?
Ar Nige is just going to use *common sense* to fix this nation.
Christ the „find out“ phase is going to be depressing
This will be dubbed project fear 2.0. Until it becomes protect reality and chumps who voted for it will still somehow blame Labour.
Possibly so but what chance do we have a few generations down the line if Reform doesn’t get into power? The country would be unrecognisable! I was born in 86 (almost 40 now) and the changes over the years in terms of immigration has been unreal. You only have to go onto the old bbc archive videos on YouTube to see places like Scarborough in the late sixty’s / seventies to today and the difference, 99% Christian white Brits.
Our culture and identity as a country is rapidly disappearing and becoming a minority in your own country in the next 50,60 years just stinks. This is not a racial rant but we have to be realistic here. The free loaders have to go home and Starmer needs to grow a back bone instead of selling his own people out.
Nigel farage has also promised to abolish the monarchy that alone will save tax payers at least 100 billions.
Farage is quite good at triggering immediate violence
Well yeah, you don’t give crazy the wheel to the car. Did we learn nothing from the Lettuce?
Pretty ironic that the party which most overtly promises to “save us” from immigrants coming from terrible economies is the one most prone and probable to abruptly make our economy terrible if they got into power.
Ironic but not surprising.
Reform: We’re going to abolish waiting lists and income tax!
Everyone: How?
Richard Tice: Oh grow up
Has anyone considered that they’re unlikely to implement their manifesto policies?
Both this government and the previous ones broke manifesto promises on not raising tax so they could shore up their fiscal positions.
Why would reform be any different?
Let’s not deny the will of the people right? The will of the people has often done well for this country in recent years like the Legendary vote of 2016 to protect our freedom and sovereignty. How dare someone want to take this from us.
I’m willing to bet that some people would make a lot of money from this scenario.
Farage once again just jacking off his base
Whilst there are some broadly popular policies here, there are some massively divisive ones, and some that genuinely don’t make a lot of sense
Didn’t Nigel say Liz Truss’s mini budget was the best or something ?
Does a sterling crisis mean my mortgage rate goes down or up?
All the headlines in the world will not be enough to stop what’s coming, they’ve been trying for over a decade now and this guy just gets bigger. He’s anti-establishment, or at least is viewed that way, so when the establishment attacks him it just boosts his image even more for those who are in favour of or considering him.
Someone please explain to me why people who were frustrated with the Tories want Reform in power, when a whole host of their MPs are literally Tories. I do not get it.
It’s so difficult to see the British version of MAGA gain traction now.
It just feels so stupid even as a thought that people are looking across the Atlantic and thinking we need some of that…. MUKGA
Heard this same stupid crap with brexit. Instant recession- instant 500,000 jobs lost- instantly our internal hyperbole radar would collapse…. Oh wait!
„Hedge-ho, Hedge-ho
It’s of to the markets we go.“
Just like Nigel and his mates did with brexit.
Who decides the future of a country the voters or the bankers
They would vote anybody in, they’ve proved it this time with the council worker that can’t stand and the one that wants to jump ship asap!! Reform voters vote for an ideology that isn’t real. It’s not going to happen and if it does, it will destroy the country!! They haven’t got a clie
I really want to do something about Reform. I feel like they’re so easy to attack, they have so many flaws, they’re not hardened politicians they’re a mess. An embarrassment. They’re going to drive this country off a cliff but are starting to look like a real threat. The public needs to be educated.
I’m thinking a website to organise and offer a pull for bringing in people but in the lead up to the election, big billboards and bus stop posters attacking individual MP’s in constituencies that they could win with facts.
I have the ability to put most of this together, I have the resources to do so. What I don’t have is lots of time and I think this project is bigger than just one person.
Is anyone else interested in doing something similar? The perfect situation would be a grassroots project with people donating their time and skills to achieving the goal of damaging reforms public pull.
Same playbook as trump wrecking the usa but exactly like trump his weird follows will believe anything they say unless they murder a child .
The same would happen if any other party except Labour or Tories got in power because it’s the unknown.