Migration treibt den Lebensstandard ab, sagen Labour -Wähler
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/06/migration-driving-down-living-standards-say-labour-voters/
Von GreatBritishHedgehog
Migration treibt den Lebensstandard ab, sagen Labour -Wähler
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/06/migration-driving-down-living-standards-say-labour-voters/
Von GreatBritishHedgehog
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In other news, Starmer has just signed a trade deal with India making it easier for Indian workers to do work in UK and also not pay NI, making them even more cheaper to employ than British workers.
Head in sand
So it’s not the rich selling the country from underneath everyone?
It’s nothing another 1.2 million people can’t fix! Come on people, let’s put our heads together and do a really big think!
>To what extent, if any, do you think higher levels of immigration had a positive or negative impact on your living standards?
This is an example of a leading question. The question isn’t asking „do you think immigration policies post-Brexit had a positive or negative impact“, it’s asking about the impact of „higher levels of immigration“. To some respondents this may mean“higher than pre-Brexit“, to others it may mean „higher than post-Brexit“. It’s poor question design.
Migration is a great thing unless there is no strict control of it….
Yes its the immigrants and not all the multi-millionaire asset-stripping non-doms that the Telegraph is otherwise so fucking desperate to defend.
Okay, so what evidence exists for this?
Oh that’s right conservatives can just call something anything and to them, it’s real.
I’m not sure the Telegraph is a good source of news.
The idea of governing a country based on what uninformed people happen to think is the real problem. The government should be clear on the pros and cons of immigration, and work accordingly based on what is going to improve living standards for the most people.
Living standards are down because billionaires hoard wealth and your rent’s half your paycheck. Immigrants didn’t do that. The people in charge did.
Maybe I had a fever dream but pre-Brexit we had far fewer immigrants coming to the UK?
Well it’s driving the immigrants living standards up
This sub specifically, is one of the most left wing echo chambers you could ever stumble across. The way people discuss things here, is not the common opinion out in the world.
This might seem like startling news, but the GDP line going up slightly as a result of mass migration, isn’t enough of a justification to get most people on board with it.
Just throwing some real world experience about.
The scapegoat tactic seems to be working then, why don’t we blame the corporations who are actually to blame or the landlords who shouldn’t even be allowed to buy property in a game of monopoly
Literally the second line in the article on the BBC
“The deal does not include any change in immigration policy, including towards Indian students studying in the UK”
Just in case anyone is reaching for the Reform panic button.
The rich will continue to spout this bullshit and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.
Hi guys. I am a chemical engineer with a PhD working in UK. Can you please elaborate on how I am driving down your living standards?
People wonder why Reform are going to be the next government (and they will be btw), it’s because for the last 20 years if you talk about a massive influx of people having a negative effect on things like housing you’d be immediately be branded a dumb racist. It was reddit’s favourite rebuttal to point out that immigrants are a net gain to the country in taxes, as if that means anything to ordinary people, as if that extra money has been used to help ordinary people with an increase in NHS spending etc.
People have seen in their lifetimes going from comfortably getting a GP appointment, a dentist, or buying a home become harder and harder, while simultaneously whole communities changing with a huge influx of immigrants. When the previous government, and now even the labour party are fully committed to being pro-business in every possible way they can and will shut down talk of wealth redistribution or even taxing billionaires as if you’re a mad commie, where will people point the finger? It’s inevitable.
The situation we’re in, and the upcoming situation (which is going to get much worse), is as much the fault of racists and racist propaganda as it is „the left“ (centrist neoliberals) selling out to big business and failing to even entertain a radical solution. When people are so fed up of the norm they want radical change, and the only option for radical change is a racist party, that’s what they’ll choose.
History will see Keir Starmer as a placeholder for what came next, and it’s going to get bad.
Sounds like these „labour voters“ would fit more with Reform.
Ah so its the immigrants that have been ploughing our waterways with sewage – righto, my mistake.
It was those pesky boaters who sold off our social housing and gave private firms the responsibility to provide short numbers on annual requirements whilst also delivering poorer standard builds – I see.
It is Ahmed and Poitr who are solely responsible for the poor state of the roads, and I thought it was the underfunded highways / councils. I feel like such a twit.
And its obviously and exclusively Johnny Foreigner’s fault that the NHS waiting times are so long, and here I was thinking that it was just another piece of infrastructure that had not been sufficiently grown and invested in.
It is all so clear to me now.
Oh, it’s that thing this sub swears blind isn’t happening, that keeps happening.
If Fararge gets in then we truly have become as dumb as the USA
They’re not even talking about boat crossings, asylum seekers or illegal immigration, though the Telegraph’s choice of picture here is suggestive.
They’re talking about **ALL immigration**. Anyone who is foreign born.
This is simply a successful campaign of xenophobic radicalisation.
Some nations of the UK seem to have completely adopted the idea that **all** foreigners, regardless of where they are from, are inherently a drain not only on the economy – which is false – but also a drain on their personal living standards. Blaming foreigners for neoliberal austerity.
If you think this, Rupert Murdoch, the Rothermeres and the minority of the ultra rich that run this country thank you for your service, having turned your anger away from their looting your country, towards any and all migrants simply existing.
This conversation is just dumb.
Everyone is happy to say ‚i don’t like immigration!‘ but despite it being **the** hot topic for the last 2 decades none of them have any plan, or most of them a comprehension, of how to handle the trade offs so a solution can actually become viable.
It’s just surface level emotion for **20 years.**
It’s not migration, it’s corporations and capitalism.
But the wealthy aren’t going to tell you it’s their fault.
The smart people are leaving the UK…
Signed an Fed up Immigrant
Deport them all. Make Britain British again. We have nowhere else to go but our little island. If we have to fight I’d have it now and get it over with.
Okay, but what do experts who actually know what they’re talking about say?
As a middle class person who gets utterly decimated by labour, why do you people shift blame so easily?
Well there you have it, this labour party is even more cut throat, ruthless and fucking bigoted than the tories. What a wild time to be alive.
Has no one noticed this dude literally just posts articles about migrants all day? Weird as fuck
No chance labour voters are actually seeing outside of their bubbles?
Of course it is
We don’t get new hospitals schools army or simple roads but we will pay for immigrants hotels health care and pocket money
There’s been a deliberate race to the bottom for over a decade in the UK.
No shit when that’s what the voters here every day all day.