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    [OC] Veränderungen der typisch westlichen Ernährung können die Lebenserwartung um bis zu 10 Jahre verbessern


    [OC] Veränderungen der typisch westlichen Ernährung können die Lebenserwartung um bis zu 10 Jahre verbessern

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    1. msimbao on

      First Post.

      New to data visualization and trying to learn if any one has any tips.

      Data taken from PLOS Medicine Journal article [https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003889](https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003889)

      Was interested in how the typical western diet compares to a more optimal diet and came across it

      Visualization made using python pywaffle package and Only Office to arrange some elements.

    3. Takeasmoke on

      are you telling me it is optimal to NOT EAT pork?

      sir i have to strongly disagree with everything in this picture even if it is not wrong

    4. Thepilli17 on

      I’m not gonna lie, but from the feed view I thought it was some India related chart..

    5. brooke360 on

      Y’all think I wanna live LONGER in this capitalist hellscape? Nah man, gimme a burger.

    6. spider_monkey on

      Why the burger icon (I’m guess that’s what it is) in the first two charts but not the last one? There seems to be no denotation about what it means or if it was just excluded just because.

    7. vinegarstrokes420 on

      Intetesting and good presentation of the data! Better defining whole foods would be good though (assuming that’s fruits and vegies).

      Seems like the majority of people I know don’t drink milk and have very little dairy in general. Crazy to me as I have a few glasses per day and it’s supposed to be good for you.

    8. Existing-East3345 on

      No red meat whatsoever, but some refined food is ideal?

      What is the value of each icon?

      Why is the middle chart missing one icon?

      How did the stray burger escape from its group?

    9. Particular-Mixture95 on

      Have fun living to 100 being vegan I’ll live to 90 eating steak and doughnuts while driving a Mazda Miata off a cliff snorting an 8 ball

    10. Gonomed on

      Not gonna be able to enjoy most of those 10 years due to the monetary burden it puts on working class folk to be put on such a diet

    11. CoastHealthy9276 on

      Sure, but a lifetime of clean eating. Kinda restrictive and less fun.

    13. Never_Been_Missed on

      I don’t want to live another 12 years if I have to eat like that. It would really just be prolonging the torture at that point.

    14. enternationalist on

      This really needs more elaboration. Saying “whole foods” and “refined foods” like this is not fundamentally different from someone saying “you need to eat less bad foods and more good foods”.

      Also, why do eggs and milk get their own whole category, but every other non-meat food on the planet is hand-waved into three categories at best?

      And, of course, the number one issue. Zero fucking citations or sourcing or *real actual information* on the image itself. This presentation is just raw disinformation – all detail has been stripped and the reader can just project whatever they think these categories mean to match their own existing opinions.

    15. Canuckleball on

      This is really tough. I’ve been eating more vegetarian based foods for financial and environmental reasons, but if I could shave ten years off of existence I might have to rethink that.

    16. YourTypicalAntihero on

      It looks fine which is an improvement over half of the posts here.

      Why use 60 icons when you could use more/less for easier to interpret percentages? Why is “better” missing one icon?

      Not all of the icons are defined and whole foods seems like too over-arching a category. For example, why are nuts/legumes not just in the whole foods category?

      Is this strictly changing the ratios of one’s diet? Did total intake change at all between the diets, because I could see that having a huge impact.

      I haven’t read the source yet, but these seem like questions Id expect to be answered by a standalone graphic.

    19. H_Lunulata on

      The world dedicates so many column inches to increasing life expectancy and so little to “what the world is going to be like with huge numbers of old people”

      Maybe, possibly, time will show that humans, collectively, were better off eating nothing but red meat and whiskey, smoking a pack and a half a day due to having the right balance of life expectancy and production ability.

      It’s a “we ***CAN*** do this, but ***SHOULD*** we do it” thing.

    20. Radu47 on

      Reckon whole food plant based would be truly optimal, getting your omegas from flax, chia, etc. While wheat bread and peanut butter contains the full amino acid profile needed for a complete protein. At least would be interested to see it compared to these graphics.

      I personally know about 10 WFPB folks (am junk food vegan myself) and they’re in fantastic shape, they love how it makes them feel

      Trying to get there myself

    21. nameorfeed on

      7 different food types, but legend only explains 5

      Up to 10 years in title, while your own stat tells us its 12 years, which one is it?

      Are these percentages I assume? Why does the middle one miss out on an icon?

      IMpossbile to tell individual percentages

      Man this is just not beautiful at all

    23. IssueEmbarrassed8103 on

      Well according to TikTok, I should be eating a 100% meat and butter diet

    25. hpela_ on

      I’d like to know how one unit of each of these groups contributes to this trend (with totals of each group near average, of course).

      E.g., “Eggs and Milk” goes from 2 to 1. What if I go from 2 to 0, is that equivalent to offsetting another unit of “Refined Foods”, or only “Red / White Meats”.

      Also, what does 1 unit of each of these mean? Is one unit a “serving” as defined by some health group? Is one unit equal to one pound per month? Is one unit equal to one cup per month?

      I think this chart gets worse the longer you look at it, and even worse the longer you think about it.

    26. nguyenlamlll on

      To be brutally honest, this is a terrible visualization. Next time, let’s try the normal traditional charts instead?

    27. CheckOutUserNamesLad on

      Why are whole foods and refined foods stacked up with food groups like meat and dairy? Some meat and dairy are refined, and some are whole. It should be more like:

      “Here’s a healthy split of meats, fruits veggies, healthy fats, and grains. Also, for optimal health, almost all of your diet should be minimally processed.”

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