„Ich bin am Boden zerstört: Meine Frau und ich fragen uns, warum wir zurückgekommen sind“ – die vierjährige Arbeit des Lehrers in Dubai spiegelt sich nicht in der Bezahlung wider
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/im-devastated-my-wife-and-i-are-wondering-why-we-came-back-teachers-four-years-work-in-dubai-not-reflected-in-pay/a1514775658.html
Von PoppedCork
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Hang on, he wants the pay scale of a job he wasn’t doing?
“Private secondary schools outside the EU are currently the only schools not recognised.” should have done his research before moaning
Are they for real? Teachers seems to live on another planet completely.
I never understand why people think things are completely transferable sometimes. The internet is literally at most people’s fingertips and basic research would have told them this.
It’s really not clear why it should be. And actually, I think it’s apt. You go to Dubai to avoid paying tax to this state. To then expect the state to reward you with a higher salary is extreme cheek.
Ah Richie lad come on. You feck off for 4 years and paid no tax on what you earned. No sympathy.
This would not happen in any other industry, experience gained working as an engineer in Australia is applicable in Ireland, teaching is surely no different
As a teacher, if you piss off and get paid enough for a downpayment on a house you why should you get increments here?
Very few of those teachers want to stay in Dubai, that’s why they are all moaning.
We should offer increments to teachers who are in Oz and Canada who we will never come back to Ireland otherwise. Not to people who went on an extended gap year, came back with 300K in the bank and now want to have their cake and eat it too.
I stayed here to get my increments and to find a permanent contract, that’s the trade off they made when they left.
>“I will always be minus those four years I taught. I came from five years living as a student and paying €7,000 for my postgraduate in education”
Forgets to mention how much tax-free earnings he got in exchange
very funny
Aw diddums dee 😢😢😢
I think a lot of people here are missing the point of the article. Increments are given in teaching for years of work abroad, this is a given in the education system. Whether or not you think that’s a cushty number for teachers is irrelevant, it happens.
The issue being raised here is that people working in private non-EU schools aren’t eligible. Which to me makes no sense. Why does it matter to the Department that the school was private? It wasn’t in Ireland anyway so wouldn’t have been benefiting Irish kids and even if the teacher worked in a foreign State school, they still wouldn’t be paying tax to us.
I have a few friends who had this experience (I was a teacher, I’ve left the profession now) and they’ve all elected to go off and work in the international private schools. They knew before they went out, it was just another push factor to leave Irish education. Better salaries for them, further teacher shortages for us. This lad is a Chemistry teacher – we need all the STEM teachers we can get. This is another case of the department cutting off their nose to spite their face.
So we have an PhD chemistry teacher who is massively underpaid because he works in a secondary/highschool, two kids, over educated, he is just a lung cancer diagnosis before we start seeing some blue crystal circulating in ireland
It’s not like they already get paid to take 3 months off a year and click through PowerPoint presentations every day and call it “teaching”
He’s probably one of the ones that voted for new entrants to come in on lower pay, and now is giving out that they should all have parity! Teachers… who needs them, amirite?
While I kinda agree with posts saying he knew what he was getting into , these aren’t new rules, I also think there is a good argument for caging the rules.
Currently primary teachers can get incremental credit for working in public and private schools within and outside the EU
Secondary teachers can get it for working in private schools within EU and outside
Secondary can get it for working in public schools outside the EU
The question is do private schools outside the EU continue to be treated differently?
“I can’t believe my decision to earn 4 years of tax free money didn’t entitle me to more money when I came back despite there being no reason why it should”
Went abroad, worked somewhere not recognised
Came back, complains it isn’t recognised
I’ve no pity for people who’ve contributed nothing through the last shitty years and now want benefits
I would imagine he was classed a New-Entrant to the public sector pay scale which is completely normal. There’s mechanisms in place to have experience reviewed as well & if it’s found applicable you can request that it be taken into account. I might be wrong for teachers but the wider public sector operates on a New vs Non-New Entrant basis.
Will give you the credit if we can take you job security 😉
“I really was shocked. My wife who taught in the same school as me was able to qualify [for the additional payment in recognition of her years of teaching] despite training originally in the Canadian system, but the key difference was she was a primary school teacher and I was a secondary school teacher.”
https://www.thejournal.ie/teachers-abroad-payment-6342975-Apr2024/
That’s crazy. Why wouldn’t it extend to secondary schools?