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31 Kommentare
She’s the one who voted TO restrain abortion rights.
For the information of those who were so afraid for the CPC to change those laws.
Lmao.
If the Liberals are willing to take an anti-abortion, anti-vaxx, pro-conversion therapy social conservative into their ranks in order to secure a majority, then the mask has finally come off. As much as they’d have us believe otherwise, there are no morals, no values among them. Just a pure, unbridled thirst for getting and holding power.
Lots of people are getting are crash course on how our parliamentary democracy actually works today.
>“We wanted change. Now it’s clear that Marilyn Gladu, who said she was in favour of change, doesn’t want change. She doesn’t want any of the things that the Conservatives have promised,” she said.
Actually.. It seems Marilyn does indeed want change.. She wants it so badly she changed parties… j/k
They can keep her… https://openparliament.ca/debates/2017/6/6/marilyn-gladu-2/only/
I would feel bad for the people quoted in the article if they weren’t so stupid. 😭
It’s almost like politicians don’t stand for anything and are more than happy to change with the wind. (Don’t tell me all these aisle crossers have suddenly been convinced by compelling arguments from the liberal party – nobody is buying that narrative).
I know everyone is very quick to cleverly point out that you vote for an individual and not a party in Canada, but I really don’t think it’s that simple.
Canadian MPs vote along party lines a staggering amount. Something like 99.5% of the time. Way more than other countries with Westminster systems.
The actual reality of the situation is that you really are voting for the party’s policies and positions moreso than an individual’s, because that’s what you’re actually going to get.
So I don’t think it’s really fair to dismiss people who dislike floor crossing – in any direction – as simply being uneducated.
Elections will be required to respect our democratic institution.
This is such a bad look for the Liberals. One or two can be explained but so many party switches is crazy. And to build the majority on that. There needs to be an election to make the majority legit.
Pro-Life. Pro Conversion Therapy. Pro Open-Carry. Anti-Vax.
Ya’ll have fun with her.
And Gladu had been very conservative as an MP, which makes me wonder how conservative this „Liberal“ PM intends to be.
As a Liberal voter, I really don’t understand this one. Gladu is awful . She should consider being an independent
Well, they said they wanted change!! lol . A Conservative turned into a liberal! 😃😂🤣
Yup a broken system
Very normal people. 4 moved from liberal to conservative in the Harper era for example. This has just been a very short time.
Carney is a left Red Tory. If a full on election was held today he’d probably get an even bigger majority.
My riding was one of the very few that went blue in the early hours of the next day. If they held the election again it would easily go red.
And she’s a Conservative who has no business being a Liberal.
It’s funny because under Carney the Liberals look a lot like the CPC without the social politics. There have been tons of cuts, especially to climate-related programs, and a lot of the policies meant to transition Canada away from it’s dependence on oil have been rolled back.
In 2012 there was a vote in HOC (Bill C306) to change the current RULES. The vote was to force a bi-election if a MP crossed the floor. Pierre and the Conservatives voted it down. They have also received Liberals with open arms when it was the other way. Now they whine about something they chose to ignore. Doesn’t really matter as it is over on Monday and then possibly up to 10 more plan to cross. Isn’t that enough of a sign that Pierre is not the one for the job…….
Sounds like a bunch of people who made their political beliefs into their identity.
Vote for one thing, get the exact opposite
Very cool democracy!
If you force people wanting to cross the floor to undergo a by-election will they also have to face a by-election if their party leader kicks them out of caucus?
What if they just choose to vote with the other party but not officially cross the floor?
If you’re going cost force a by-election when they cross the floor then the individual MPS have no say whatsoever in the goings-on in government and the only people that would really matter are the four-party leaders. In which case why are we paying the other $300 some?
A well-defined mixed-member proportional system would easily solve this problem and end floor crossing since the process guarantees proportional representation based on the most recent election results.
I look forward to the Conservative party adopting MMP support as a policy.
„A politician who crosses the aisle, has shown tremendous courage in putting their principles first“
I’m sorry this is so funny. Wasn’t it conservatives who rejoiced when a liberal crossed the floor in 2018?? This reaction is always shared by the party losing an MP.
Yes. People vote for a person primarily because of the party they run for. It’s why independent MPs are so rarely elected in our system.
But you don’t vote for a party at the ballot box. You vote for a person.
Should we have a legal mechanism to recall an MP – especially since all of these MPs said they made this decision “after talking with their constituents”? I’d support that. Even now, folks can punish the MP at the ballot box next election.
But seriously. If you’re anyone who doesn’t support floor crossings – grow up. This is literally our system. Instead maybe ask yourselves why all these MPs are leaving in the first place
I’m still surprised that conservatives haven’t figured out that what Carney is, is the type of conservative lots of Canadians want. Fewer and fewer people want south of the boarder brand of politics. I voted for Carney and if he was running the cons, I’d vote conservative.
If mps cant switch parties, cant vote against the party or dissent at all within the party, and all that matters is the leaders of the party, then we have an elective oligarchy not a democracy idk why people seem to want that reality so bad?
her and Carney are slime bags
This is my MP, and I’m of two minds on this. I can tell you that several of my relatives are *pissed*, and have already emailed her over this. Me, I don’t know how to feel.
Typically, I’m against floor crossing, except under extenuating circumstances. I think that voters should, generally, get what they voted for; even under our antiquated electoral system. So, unless she knows something I don’t, possibly about America, I’m not sure what to think of her decision making.
Then there’s the fact that she went from the party I didn’t vote for, to the party that I did, and finally gave them a majority; I’m just not sure what they’re going to do with it. I feel like I should be happy, but I’m worried that there will be compromises that I don’t agree with.
Why bother with elections if MPs can just jump to another party. Anyone who voted for her-your vote meant nothing. This is not democracy. At the very least floor crossing should trigger a by-election.
Remind me never to visit this place. I would hate to be segregated based on my political beliefs.