I don’t think Iran would be okay with losing 90 % of its oil exports, especially given how dependent it is on natural resources to sustain its already fragile economy.
BlueHorse_22 on
That’s so cute. Someone actually takes anything Trump says seriously.
I_Hate_E_Daters_7007 on
The US screwed its own ability to seize the kharg island when it bombed the sole runway there because doing so shortened its distance from 6000 feet to 3000 which now makes it unsuitable for heavy airlifters like the C-17 Globemaster or the C-5 Galaxy which will compel the military to rely on slower and smaller aircraft like the C130
bodhidharma132001 on
DJT: let’s take the island.
General Caine: it’ll be difficult.
DJT: nevermind
Connect_Progress7862 on
This should have been posted yesterday for April fool’s
romeo_pentium on
That would be an effective way for US to copy Russia’s meat wave tactic of losing thousands of soldiers a day for no benefit
Majestic-Driver on
Iran destroying all that oil infrastructure on the first sign of an American assault wouldn’t surprise me one bit. If they know they’re going to lose it anyway why would they let Trump get it?
TomLondra on
Bigging up the prospect of a US strike on Kharg Island would fit a classic deception strategy: focus public attention on a credible target to draw Iran’s defence resources to that location, whilst the real objective is elsewhere.
A clear comparison is the Gulf War under Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, where the fear of a US amphibious assault along Kuwait’s coast tied down the Iraqi forces in the wrong place, while the main attack was across the desert, and outflanked the Iraqi army.
This may be part of what is going on.
trikora on
since the plan is already obvious, i think iran already made that island full of traps or some sort. They know they can’t prevent the island from getting captured. But they sure can inflict high casualties, which can make the US war support even more unpopular
Manealendil on
You know what happens if there is *ONE* explosion near those Oil Silos?
According-Try3201 on
defending yourself there will be hard – especially if you rule out Ukrainian tech
Ornery-Smoke9075 on
Join us for tomorrows episode of „What’s the orange idiot going to say next“
TheHenryFrancisFynn on
This try will really help China for its own objective ,,,,
zanzara1968 on
I wouldn’t like to be in the shoes of the captain who will have to sail the Ormuz strait with the USS Tripoli or one of the landing ships… Scary thing having to go throught a narrow, predictable path with ships so big and so near an hostile land.
chainsaw_kitten_006 on
How well historically has relying on dangerous airlifts gone surrounded by the enemy?
MidWestKhagan on
Lmao there’s a reason why no one has tried before. Russia’s navy got fucked in the Black Sea because it’s so confined, imagine the strait of Hormuz 😂 it’s literally a suicide mission and will give Iran another decisive victory.
howimetyourcakeshop on
Grabbing the popcorn 🍿🍻
Remote-Ad-2686 on
If the US takes the island , they will blow it !
Comfortable_Sir9044 on
Anyone else think this is going to be a future CoD map?
Patriot5500 on
The story about capturing Kharh island is a bluff or misdirection. The island can be controlled by the Airforce.
Ground forces if deployed will be to the area across from Oman in Iran at the narrow area of the Hormuz strait.
transcendental-ape on
You’d have to seize like 3-4 other islands just to open a safe amphibious route to Kharg island. It would be a grinding island hoping campaign that would need way more than a few thousand marines.
Meanwhile Kharg’s usefulness to Iran would be destroyed if you blew up the one pipeline supplying th island’s sole oil docking terminal. One missile at one pump house and boom. Kharg is a useless pile of rocks. No need to get servicemen killed over it.
DaithiMacG on
Wonder does anyone in American seniour military actually supporting this , or they just going to put vice admiral Leroy Jenkins in charge?
Nashville_Hot_Mess on
We’re gonna send a lot of young men to be turned into mincemeat by FPV drones. Warfare always favors the defending army. If Ukraine is any lesson, 20:1 casualties can be expected.
username_redacted on
Seems like a bad idea!
rooranger on
„Mull“ and „Strategy“ involve the mind, but they operate at opposite ends of the cognitive spectrum – one is about the process of wandering through thoughts, while the other is about the structure of achieving an end goal.
splashjlr on
Trump mulls over a cheese burger. If it tasts good, he’ll do it, maybe, we’ll see what happens. „Nobody has ever mulled like me. People are saying, look at that muller. Probably the best muller in history. By the way, I mulle better than Lincoln. Lincoln couldn’t mull. Nobody can. Only I can mull. You’ll be so tired of mulling, you’ll say please stop. We can’t take more mulling. We’ve got enough now, Sir. Sir? I cry when I think of all the mulling you’ve done for American. Thank you Sir. You’re the best president in history. Probably the best in the world, maybe even the universe“
findthehumorinthings on
Trump: where’s my damned applesauce!
THSSFC on
Seizing Kharg doesn’t make sense unless you seize the mainland around the Strait to allow a flotilla of landing craft and support ships to the island. And it doesn’t make sense unless you seize the mainland near Kharg to deny short range attacks against our military on the island.
Blowing up Kharg serves no purpose because then Iran has no incentive to ever allow the strait to open.
Kharg is an idiots idea of a quick solution.
KittehKittehKat on
Taking it probably straight forward.
Taking it without damaging the infrastructure I have no idea how you do it.
Ok-Target3363 on
This weekend after the market closes it’s going down.
Dr3adnorth on
Iran will let him have it then turn it into a smoking crater.
Ooglebird on
Those who attempted to visit Kharg Island have never returned. The natives have a great fear and built a giant wall, a fear that has never been explained.
docK_5263 on
Gallipoli 2
AGrandNewAdventure on
It’s a good thing we’ve given them plenty of warning of our intentions so they can reinforce the island with men and machinery…
FoleyLione on
This is not where the oil comes from, this is where the oil goes to be put on ships. The reason we aren’t blowing it up or taking it is bc if this is destroyed 1) China/India can’t get oil from here now and in the future, they’re much more involved in this, 2) more importantly they’re buying oil from other places that drives the price of the other markets way up, which is to say our prices, 3) Iran believe it or not has been holding back on some of its own targets it can reach that are major infrastructural hubs for natural gas and oil that the would now hit.
Moral of the Story: If we take this place offline oil and oil futures fly through the roof, if we take it without destroying it it’s not such a long term problem, only bc we plan to give it back to whoever is in charge at the end, but oil still goes up now, and Iran could blow it up themselves to continue their attack on the world oil markets at the center of the world economy.
It’s worth noting the USA has allowed Iran to export oil during this war to keep the price of oil lower and not piss off China as much.
Jboi75 on
I’ve still not heard how we’re supposed to get through the strait. What happens when there’s pics/vids of sinking US vessels?
hdufort on
It would make things so much more complicated for everyone, not just Iran.
The strategic area and real choke-point is the Hormuz strait. Can’t occupy the area on the Iranian side, it’s rather hilly and there is a major city with a population of 500k there.
Strategically, it would make more sense to seize parts of the island of Quesm. It’s located directly into the strait, it has a rather low population. Seize an area large enough to set up a forward base, control the island and prevent an Iranian landing, and you just caused immense grief in Iran. They haven’t lost any significant territory since 1828.
Expect losses during the operation. Expect attrition and more losses over time. Consider what happened to Russia when they seized Snake Island in Ukraine.
biloxibluess on
These poor Cadians barely have enough pts for the board
There are no Space Marines dropping, you’re all eggroll filling
smoothie4564 on
If I were in charge of the IRGC I would fortify and booby-trap the hell out of that island. Knowing where one’s enemy is going to attack is extremely vital information.
Also, that island is very important for the world’s oil market. If the oil infrastructure on that island goes up in smoke the rest of the world gets screwed up as well. The IRGC probably has a mentality of „if I can’t have it, then no one will have it“. This is what religious fundamentalists think, they are willing to „go down with the ship“ as long as the enemy goes down with them.
This is a war that our orange, idiotic, impulsive, convicted felon president created.
OpeningAd1360 on
He has NO BRAIN !
LostInAPortal on
The island resembles the predicted GTA 6 map
orangputih31416 on
It would certainly provide interesting content for r/combatfootage
Cures80 on
are there iranian troops on the island?
clintgreasewoood on
You still have to get the US Navy ships through the Straight of Hormuz.
Turin8 on
This could very well be our Teutoberg Forest
cybercuzco on
I would bet that most of that infrastructure is rigged to blow if anything happens.
Oldenlame on
Normal People: After going to the effort of seizing the island, any standing force will be a constant target for Iranian drones and proxy militia attacks.
Marines: If we’re surrounded, we can attack in all directions.
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I don’t think Iran would be okay with losing 90 % of its oil exports, especially given how dependent it is on natural resources to sustain its already fragile economy.
That’s so cute. Someone actually takes anything Trump says seriously.
The US screwed its own ability to seize the kharg island when it bombed the sole runway there because doing so shortened its distance from 6000 feet to 3000 which now makes it unsuitable for heavy airlifters like the C-17 Globemaster or the C-5 Galaxy which will compel the military to rely on slower and smaller aircraft like the C130
DJT: let’s take the island.
General Caine: it’ll be difficult.
DJT: nevermind
This should have been posted yesterday for April fool’s
That would be an effective way for US to copy Russia’s meat wave tactic of losing thousands of soldiers a day for no benefit
Iran destroying all that oil infrastructure on the first sign of an American assault wouldn’t surprise me one bit. If they know they’re going to lose it anyway why would they let Trump get it?
Bigging up the prospect of a US strike on Kharg Island would fit a classic deception strategy: focus public attention on a credible target to draw Iran’s defence resources to that location, whilst the real objective is elsewhere.
A clear comparison is the Gulf War under Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, where the fear of a US amphibious assault along Kuwait’s coast tied down the Iraqi forces in the wrong place, while the main attack was across the desert, and outflanked the Iraqi army.
This may be part of what is going on.
since the plan is already obvious, i think iran already made that island full of traps or some sort. They know they can’t prevent the island from getting captured. But they sure can inflict high casualties, which can make the US war support even more unpopular
You know what happens if there is *ONE* explosion near those Oil Silos?
defending yourself there will be hard – especially if you rule out Ukrainian tech
Join us for tomorrows episode of „What’s the orange idiot going to say next“
This try will really help China for its own objective ,,,,
I wouldn’t like to be in the shoes of the captain who will have to sail the Ormuz strait with the USS Tripoli or one of the landing ships… Scary thing having to go throught a narrow, predictable path with ships so big and so near an hostile land.
How well historically has relying on dangerous airlifts gone surrounded by the enemy?
Lmao there’s a reason why no one has tried before. Russia’s navy got fucked in the Black Sea because it’s so confined, imagine the strait of Hormuz 😂 it’s literally a suicide mission and will give Iran another decisive victory.
Grabbing the popcorn 🍿🍻
If the US takes the island , they will blow it !
Anyone else think this is going to be a future CoD map?
The story about capturing Kharh island is a bluff or misdirection. The island can be controlled by the Airforce.
Ground forces if deployed will be to the area across from Oman in Iran at the narrow area of the Hormuz strait.
You’d have to seize like 3-4 other islands just to open a safe amphibious route to Kharg island. It would be a grinding island hoping campaign that would need way more than a few thousand marines.
Meanwhile Kharg’s usefulness to Iran would be destroyed if you blew up the one pipeline supplying th island’s sole oil docking terminal. One missile at one pump house and boom. Kharg is a useless pile of rocks. No need to get servicemen killed over it.
Wonder does anyone in American seniour military actually supporting this , or they just going to put vice admiral Leroy Jenkins in charge?
We’re gonna send a lot of young men to be turned into mincemeat by FPV drones. Warfare always favors the defending army. If Ukraine is any lesson, 20:1 casualties can be expected.
Seems like a bad idea!
„Mull“ and „Strategy“ involve the mind, but they operate at opposite ends of the cognitive spectrum – one is about the process of wandering through thoughts, while the other is about the structure of achieving an end goal.
Trump mulls over a cheese burger. If it tasts good, he’ll do it, maybe, we’ll see what happens. „Nobody has ever mulled like me. People are saying, look at that muller. Probably the best muller in history. By the way, I mulle better than Lincoln. Lincoln couldn’t mull. Nobody can. Only I can mull. You’ll be so tired of mulling, you’ll say please stop. We can’t take more mulling. We’ve got enough now, Sir. Sir? I cry when I think of all the mulling you’ve done for American. Thank you Sir. You’re the best president in history. Probably the best in the world, maybe even the universe“
Trump: where’s my damned applesauce!
Seizing Kharg doesn’t make sense unless you seize the mainland around the Strait to allow a flotilla of landing craft and support ships to the island. And it doesn’t make sense unless you seize the mainland near Kharg to deny short range attacks against our military on the island.
Blowing up Kharg serves no purpose because then Iran has no incentive to ever allow the strait to open.
Kharg is an idiots idea of a quick solution.
Taking it probably straight forward.
Taking it without damaging the infrastructure I have no idea how you do it.
This weekend after the market closes it’s going down.
Iran will let him have it then turn it into a smoking crater.
Those who attempted to visit Kharg Island have never returned. The natives have a great fear and built a giant wall, a fear that has never been explained.
Gallipoli 2
It’s a good thing we’ve given them plenty of warning of our intentions so they can reinforce the island with men and machinery…
This is not where the oil comes from, this is where the oil goes to be put on ships. The reason we aren’t blowing it up or taking it is bc if this is destroyed 1) China/India can’t get oil from here now and in the future, they’re much more involved in this, 2) more importantly they’re buying oil from other places that drives the price of the other markets way up, which is to say our prices, 3) Iran believe it or not has been holding back on some of its own targets it can reach that are major infrastructural hubs for natural gas and oil that the would now hit.
Moral of the Story: If we take this place offline oil and oil futures fly through the roof, if we take it without destroying it it’s not such a long term problem, only bc we plan to give it back to whoever is in charge at the end, but oil still goes up now, and Iran could blow it up themselves to continue their attack on the world oil markets at the center of the world economy.
It’s worth noting the USA has allowed Iran to export oil during this war to keep the price of oil lower and not piss off China as much.
I’ve still not heard how we’re supposed to get through the strait. What happens when there’s pics/vids of sinking US vessels?
It would make things so much more complicated for everyone, not just Iran.
The strategic area and real choke-point is the Hormuz strait. Can’t occupy the area on the Iranian side, it’s rather hilly and there is a major city with a population of 500k there.
Strategically, it would make more sense to seize parts of the island of Quesm. It’s located directly into the strait, it has a rather low population. Seize an area large enough to set up a forward base, control the island and prevent an Iranian landing, and you just caused immense grief in Iran. They haven’t lost any significant territory since 1828.
Expect losses during the operation. Expect attrition and more losses over time. Consider what happened to Russia when they seized Snake Island in Ukraine.
These poor Cadians barely have enough pts for the board
There are no Space Marines dropping, you’re all eggroll filling
If I were in charge of the IRGC I would fortify and booby-trap the hell out of that island. Knowing where one’s enemy is going to attack is extremely vital information.
Also, that island is very important for the world’s oil market. If the oil infrastructure on that island goes up in smoke the rest of the world gets screwed up as well. The IRGC probably has a mentality of „if I can’t have it, then no one will have it“. This is what religious fundamentalists think, they are willing to „go down with the ship“ as long as the enemy goes down with them.
This is a war that our orange, idiotic, impulsive, convicted felon president created.
He has NO BRAIN !
The island resembles the predicted GTA 6 map
It would certainly provide interesting content for r/combatfootage
are there iranian troops on the island?
You still have to get the US Navy ships through the Straight of Hormuz.
This could very well be our Teutoberg Forest
I would bet that most of that infrastructure is rigged to blow if anything happens.
Normal People: After going to the effort of seizing the island, any standing force will be a constant target for Iranian drones and proxy militia attacks.
Marines: If we’re surrounded, we can attack in all directions.