Imo it seems pretty wild that AB and SK leaders made these comments the day of Lewis’s win.
I think it would have worked better politically to give some sort of canned congratulations messaging, and then maybe a week or two down the line these statements could manifest.
MarkCEINE on
He needs to rebuild on the left where there is some space. That rules out pandering to Alberta and Saskatchewan for now. The message needs to be about income equity, affordability, housing, and yes the environment. Climate change has not gone away and people do still care. It is just not top of mind right now for most people. The NDP has to steer clear of identity politics and stay quiet on Foreign Policy. Those subjects are important but can lead to quagmires. Let the CPCS, Bloc and Liberals pound on each other on those issues. The NDP can get official status in 3 years or so on kitchen table issues if they stay focused.
darrylgorn on
The NDP needs to have a consistent message that’s uniform for all party members.
At this point in their development, they will keep their focus on labour practices, socialism and human rights, as those are the core tenets of the party.
Appeasing libertarians or even centrists is a fool’s errand. They will benefit from maintaining a principled approach, just like Layton did.
Chrristoaivalis on
Nenshi and company chose to sit on the sidelines the entire race
No endorsement of McPherson; no effort to draft a different candidate
If Avi was such a threat, they should have made that clear months ago.
They look childish and vindictive, and in so doing make Lewis look gracious in victory.
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And given no endorsement of Heather, were Nenshi and Beck just gonna trash her, too?
KvotheG on
Avi Lewis needs to at minimum reach out to his provincial counterparts to establish a dialogue. They are the same party, after all. If he goes full gung ho on his vision for the NDP that doesn’t include the input of the provincial parties, he risks alienating them to the point they won’t help campaign during federal elections.
Poilievre’s CPC alienated the Ontario and Nova Scotia PC parties during the last election. It’s argued that if he had a better relationship with them, it could have made a difference electorally, even if marginally. So if the provincial NDP parties who have had electoral success are raising concerns, Lewis will be better off at least hearing them out and finding ways to reconcile his vision with their concerns.
Of course, I don’t think he’s willing to listen right now. He’s on his victory run. He’s not in the mood to listen. This leaves a gap for Carney to swoop in and establish a strong relationship with provincial NDP premiers.
I could care less about the state of the NDP, but I do believe a strong NDP keeps the Liberals competitive for progressive votes, where they try harder to win them.
Elegant-Tangerine-54 on
What kind of a relationship did Jack Layton have with the western NDP leaders? It’s been so long I can’t remember. I don’t think any of the western NDP parties were in power during most of Layton’s tenure – maybe for a few years in Saskatchewan.
PotentialRise7587 on
Nenshi is failing to make gains in the polls against one of the most far-right premiers in Canadian history and is looking to blame anyone but himself for that.
StrbJun79 on
I’ve been really wanting to vote NDP as I don’t feel Carney represents progressive values at all and has been campaigning far too much toward the right.
But this kind of thing can mean the death of the NDP. With the conservatives plummeting in the polls the NDP and the left unhappy with the liberals the NDP has a perfect opportunity for people like me.
Sad to see such infighting. It could result in a one party nation for a long time. I really hope they get their act together so as to prevent that from happening.
ElectronHick on
I wrote Carla telling her to get on the people’s side, or get out of our way. We chose Avi, and your condemnation of his leadership is a condemnation against the people who gave her, her job.
ChimoEngr on
> “Albertans deserve federal leaders who understand the importance of Alberta and our essential role in the federation,” he added.
It’s quite disappointing to see Nenshi buy into the Albertan exceptionalism rhetoric. I always thought he was better than that.
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Imo it seems pretty wild that AB and SK leaders made these comments the day of Lewis’s win.
I think it would have worked better politically to give some sort of canned congratulations messaging, and then maybe a week or two down the line these statements could manifest.
He needs to rebuild on the left where there is some space. That rules out pandering to Alberta and Saskatchewan for now. The message needs to be about income equity, affordability, housing, and yes the environment. Climate change has not gone away and people do still care. It is just not top of mind right now for most people. The NDP has to steer clear of identity politics and stay quiet on Foreign Policy. Those subjects are important but can lead to quagmires. Let the CPCS, Bloc and Liberals pound on each other on those issues. The NDP can get official status in 3 years or so on kitchen table issues if they stay focused.
The NDP needs to have a consistent message that’s uniform for all party members.
At this point in their development, they will keep their focus on labour practices, socialism and human rights, as those are the core tenets of the party.
Appeasing libertarians or even centrists is a fool’s errand. They will benefit from maintaining a principled approach, just like Layton did.
Nenshi and company chose to sit on the sidelines the entire race
No endorsement of McPherson; no effort to draft a different candidate
If Avi was such a threat, they should have made that clear months ago.
They look childish and vindictive, and in so doing make Lewis look gracious in victory.
***
And given no endorsement of Heather, were Nenshi and Beck just gonna trash her, too?
Avi Lewis needs to at minimum reach out to his provincial counterparts to establish a dialogue. They are the same party, after all. If he goes full gung ho on his vision for the NDP that doesn’t include the input of the provincial parties, he risks alienating them to the point they won’t help campaign during federal elections.
Poilievre’s CPC alienated the Ontario and Nova Scotia PC parties during the last election. It’s argued that if he had a better relationship with them, it could have made a difference electorally, even if marginally. So if the provincial NDP parties who have had electoral success are raising concerns, Lewis will be better off at least hearing them out and finding ways to reconcile his vision with their concerns.
Of course, I don’t think he’s willing to listen right now. He’s on his victory run. He’s not in the mood to listen. This leaves a gap for Carney to swoop in and establish a strong relationship with provincial NDP premiers.
I could care less about the state of the NDP, but I do believe a strong NDP keeps the Liberals competitive for progressive votes, where they try harder to win them.
What kind of a relationship did Jack Layton have with the western NDP leaders? It’s been so long I can’t remember. I don’t think any of the western NDP parties were in power during most of Layton’s tenure – maybe for a few years in Saskatchewan.
Nenshi is failing to make gains in the polls against one of the most far-right premiers in Canadian history and is looking to blame anyone but himself for that.
I’ve been really wanting to vote NDP as I don’t feel Carney represents progressive values at all and has been campaigning far too much toward the right.
But this kind of thing can mean the death of the NDP. With the conservatives plummeting in the polls the NDP and the left unhappy with the liberals the NDP has a perfect opportunity for people like me.
Sad to see such infighting. It could result in a one party nation for a long time. I really hope they get their act together so as to prevent that from happening.
I wrote Carla telling her to get on the people’s side, or get out of our way. We chose Avi, and your condemnation of his leadership is a condemnation against the people who gave her, her job.
> “Albertans deserve federal leaders who understand the importance of Alberta and our essential role in the federation,” he added.
It’s quite disappointing to see Nenshi buy into the Albertan exceptionalism rhetoric. I always thought he was better than that.