Live-Updates: Der neue bundesstaatliche NDP-Vorsitzende Avi Lewis wird von den Parteiführern der Provinzen in Alberta und Saskatchewan kritisiert
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Here comes the identity politics again
That was surprisingly quick.
It’s going to be an uphill battle for Avi Lewis, he’s going to have to back off on a lot of things he probably personally believes in to get any support from the Provincial NDP’s.
Hopefully Avi knows how to work with people and cede his positions because you know. The Federal NDP’s have never formed government and the provincial NDP’s have, so its obvious which side should have more say in the matter.
IE, back off trying to strangle resources development for Climate activism. The Federal NDP need to rebuild their base, which means they need to go back to their roots and go all in on workers rights, workers pay, anti Wage suppression through immigration and pro union jobs like oil and gas and LNG and Construction.
And Anti billionaire class by going after the Grocer Mafia’s like METRO and LOBLAWS and Walmart.
Good, good… continue to tear yourself apart from within.
Well, on the one hand we have the Prairie pragmatists, and on the other hand we have the champagne socialist. The bases for the federal and provincial wings of the NDP are increasingly different.
I don’t blame them, there success has come from staying away from many of his divisive policies and they need to create space between them..
Nenshi must be happy. He’s been polling behind the UCP his entire time as leader and now he finally has someone to blame for it
Don’t know what Avi Lewis is expecting when he thinks spending 2% of GDP on defense is too much and national support for meeting that is really high, and the number for exceeding that is almost as high. It’s just one issue, obviously, but it just goes to show how out of touch he is.
Grievance politics, within hierarchies of victimhood. Foreign sectarian conflicts. Yada, yada. Add in a dash of open door immigration, and a splash of abuse of our refugee system.
Political dead end. Just Hope he doesn’t poison the Prairie pragmatists within the provincial NDP.
i’m glad Nenshi came out swinging for Alberta, here’s his IG post
„Today, the federal New Democratic Party selected its new leader.
It is clear that the direction of the federal party under this new leader, someone who openly cheered for the defeat of the Alberta NDP government, is not in the interests of Alberta.
Last year, Alberta’s New Democrats voted overwhelmingly to make membership in the federal party optional. Many thousands of our provincial members, including myself, are not members of the federal party. We are a big tent and we welcome the support of people who vote for every federal party.
We believe in Alberta and we believe in Canadian energy and the good jobs it creates. We believe in more pipelines and reducing emissions. We believe in strong public services and a strong jobs-driven economy to help pay for them. This is what we are fighting for every day.
Albertans deserve federal leaders who understand the importance of Alberta and our essential role in the federation.
Our focus is not on what the federal NDP says or does. Our fight is with Danielle Smith and the separatist UCP. Albertans deserve a better government, and we are here to be that better government.“
As he should. I kept being told „he has the best working class platform of all the candidates.“
Maybe thats true. I disagree, but thats not my point.
My point is, even if he has the „best platform“, he needs to be in a position to put that platform in place and a lot of his ivory tower moralizing, and undermining of the provincial wings essentially guarantees that he’ll never be in that position. This man has already shrunk the party instead of growing it and that will only continue.
Listening to some of the NDP that are railing against these guys, I’m getting the impression some just want to be an activist group, not a political party that wants to be elected. The amount of hand having about ‚climate change is more important then jobs‘ I am seeing is wild for a labour’s party.
I really hope that Lewis will do what needs to be done first when his party has already sunk this low:
Reduce identity politics and gain ground in the polls.
I think a lot of people are envisioning him right now as a leader who needs to bring the NDP to a place they can become the official opposition by the next election, which is unrealistic. He will go a lot further by bringing back people who left the NDP for the Conservatives, and then maybe when he has done that, making himself more palatable in the Prairies (or let another leader do that).
His focus should be rebuilding the NDP right now.
I wonder if the federal NDP has realised that they can’t run the party like it’s provincial politics, where the government has a great influence on pocket book issues and services. As the federal leader you have to work with the federation not oppose it and become a hardliner. That will show dissent, it’s how Trudeau lost the plot.
> nenshi: listen up lewis
> loses next provincial election
Has Lewis even won an MP seat? I’m looking at his electoral record and the guy appears to have never won a federal riding
For Nenshi, I have to imagine Lewis becoming the federal party leader will be the reason to finally divorce his party from the federal NDP.
The AB NDP and federal NDP haven’t seen eye-to-eye on a lot of things in recent years (especially since Notley dragged the party further to the centre as the UCP pushed further right), and the federal party’s reputation and policies has been something of a millstone around their necks, so now’s as good a time as any to finally break with the federal party, rename themselves, and move on.
Im honestly embarrassed. The clips of their gender equity cards have gone super viral and made all Canadians looks like lunatics
Why the AB NDP don’t rename themselves to literally anything else continues to baffle me
I think that’s fair. There’s absolutely no need for a provincial party to be affiliated with a federal one. It’s nothing new nor unique, so I don’t know why it’s even an issue.
The NDP is official opposition or in government in the 4 Western provinces.
The 2 NDP leaders that lost their last election have disavowed him.
The 2 NDP leaders that won their last election, including the one that is currently the most popular Premier in Canada by far, have supported and endorsed him.
Christmas came early for Danielle Smith and Scott Moe. If I’m them I’d call an early election
This is a disaster for the ANDP. Smith will likely call an election soon and Nenshi will be unable to distance himself from the problematic rhetoric coming from the federal party.
Kind of wish heather won.
The NDP are a joke. The only bigger joke is their supporters.
Meanwhile Poilievre just congratulated lewis on winning
https://x.com/PierrePoilievre/status/2038298870338212192
It is the surest sign that the NDP base made the correct decision when you see the liberals of the party, and the LPC/CPC bots online immediately run to disparage him at every mention of his name. Reminds me of the smearing Zohran’s campaign faced. Of course, these same people are utterly clueless. They say things like „the NDP needs to go back to its labour roots“ without realizing Avi is by far the most pro-labour candidate this election had, certainly far more than McPherson who is a liberal in orange clothing. These people don’t know about this because they don’t even look at what the candidates said or have done. All they see is a nerdy guy in glasses using words longer than 4 letters and think that means he’s a „champagne socialist“. Of course, the condescending corollary to this baked in to these liberals ideology is the idea that workers‘ themselves must be too stupid to understand him. We will find out in the next election whether the general populace is receptive to actually progressive, socialist, worker-centered policies or if they care more about continuing to shuttle money towards corporations and the ultra wealthy.
Just remember – if Avi Lewis didn’t actually threaten these people, they wouldn’t be saying this, instead they would be congratulating him and happy, because they wouldn’t have to worry about the NDP.
Problem comes for provincial elections. Alberta has 2 established parties. With the Federal Liberals gaining popularity across Canada, moderate and progressive voters may split the vote on the left and give UCP another victory.
He wants to be a „beacon for the 99%“ while advocating for unrestricted immigration, and the expansion of our already heavily abused refugee program by removing „first safe country“ protections, etc…
Pivot on that one point, prioritize Canadian workers of all types, and I might listen.
Pivot on anti-resource development and I might vote.
Until then, Avi is whistling in the wind.
This will be the final nail for the federal NDP party.
I actually like him, but agree with the leaders in AB and SK that being anti-pipeline is a bad policy. It also goes against the NDPs historical pro-labour policy.
My honest opinion is that, while I like a lot of what Avi Lewis has to say, I don’t think he’s the right person for this role at this time. A friend of mine said that if he became the leader, it would ultimately fracture the NDP, and this is the first step of that.
Anyone believing his message??? I have a bridge to sell you.
I grew up an NDP supporter. I long for the days of Romanow and Broadbent. Lewis is the opposite of Jack Layton.
I had serious reservations with Beck but she is even standing up to this guy. If Beck keeps this up she will get my vote in the next provincial election.
Lewis seems like Trump just on the left.
We don’t need this type of politics.
Of course he will. Avi is an actual orange NDP, Carla Beck and Nenshi are red NDP.
I wish him well, even if it is not likely I will vote for him.
The more I see the NDP tacting further left and the Conservatives tacting further right, the more I feel I made a good choice voting for the Liberals in the last election.
On the pipeline issue: IMO we need to be pragmatic about oil. We don’t want to ignore climate change and dig-baby-did like the Conservatives, and we need oil exports to support our diversification strategy, so our plan for a new pipeline with an industrial carbon tax to pay for carbon capture seems prudent.
Lewis‘ vision for publicly owned enterprises sounds like a good idea on the surface but as we know government owned businesses are seldom efficient. And difficult to shutdown if not making a return. Personally I’d prefer fewer corporate handouts in favour of government fund loans or equity stakes in private businesses on a temporary basis so there is an ROI for taxpayers.
Lewis seems to be anti-AI, which sounds good until you realize others countries will implement AI and get productivity improvement that will have their workers outperform ours. Even China, who faces a huge demographic buble is building dark factories to build cars.
And the race to quantum computing is nothing short of a Manhattan Project / Moonshot moment for whoever gets there first and a huge security problem worldwide.
Lewis talked a lot about unions but they make up just 30% of the workforce. AI and other challenges will affect the entire workforce including white collar jobs. What about the other 70%? What is our economic model if we can’t trade time for a wage?
We’ll see. It will be an interesting few years in politics.
This guy seems like the PP of NDP. Increasingly irrelevant party ceding the blue collar vote to the conservatives, taking on the role of the Green Party, while the Liberals have taken the role of the best Progressive Conservative party in decades.