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35 Kommentare
This is such a win-win no brainer, get on with it.
Are you not happy with the answers you’re getting?
But then you’d have to pretend to like Ireland’s call
Because they hate us up there.
Sectarianism.
Because all of the most influential people in soccer on this island have a full-time job that relies on separate organisations. If the IFA and the FAI unite, you only need one CEO, one head of development, one head of marketing, one UEFA representative, one head of competitions. What would happen to all the other C-suite auld lads who currently make a tidy amount, when we have two people competing for a single role?
One league would mean one set of places in European competitions, which is where the biggest clubs currently make their money. UEFA wouldn’t be minded to give the island of Ireland an exemption here when both leagues add pretty much no value to their club competitions in the grand scheme of things.
we’d have to listen to that stupid rugby song instead of a national anthem.
if we can use „Put ‚em Under Pressure“ im down.
but im not sure if we can reach a consensus on it.
Theres about 2 players from their team that would star
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So theyd start bitching about how sectarian it is not to have the whole team from the north instead
It has quite a bit to do with the (can’t remember the official name, but) the voting board for football rule changes IIRC. The „Home Nations“ (England, Scotland, Wales and NI) have a vote each, plus 4 votes from other nations for a total of 8. This may have changed in the last 20 or so years, but my brain is shouting at me that this is (or at least used to be) a thing.
We should do it, drop the FAI and let the new organisation continue as the IFA, with the shared history of both associations, so that we keep that special FIFA designation.
We could both not go to the world cup as one team!
Seriously though, the turkeys in the FAI/IFA aren’t going to willingly vote for a move to a single gravy train. There wouldn’t be enough gravy for all the turkeys.
So an external campaign is what’s needed but I just don’t see it happening ahead of national unification.
I’m all for it as long as they don’t sing Ireland’s Call!
There’s far too many vested interests to allow a merger even if it’s logical and follows pretty much every other sport
This would be a disaster for the clubs in the league of Ireland and Irish league
Think of how many bureaucrats are in the IFA/FAI – no way they’re giving up the gravy train to do what’s best for the country.
Football fans are too tribal and sectarian. It’ll never happen in the sport.
Let the Orangemen have their own team
Fun fact FAI split from the IFA.
* Political its sensitive which a lot of issues around people being British but playing for Northern Ireland might not want to play for Ireland. It would be like merging Rangers and Celtic.
* Currently the island has 2 chances to get in, how does it make sense being better only have 1 chance. Effectively cutting 20+ people.
* We as an Island of Ireland lose funding and voting rights or 2-1
* How does merging make us better? We’ve already a huge pool of people to choose from already. Denmark, Finland, Norway, Slovakia, Croatia, Uruguay all have similar populations and tend to perform better.
Because anyone from Northern Ireland who wants to play for us, can and already do thanks to the Good Friday agreement. …and theres few if any players in the Northern Ireland squad that would improve us anyway.
I’m from the North and would love to see it in my lifetime.
A Swedish pal asked me to explain the ins and outs of our teams a couple of years ago and each question came with an answer that needed qualifying to the extent she thought I was being intentionally crooked. Literally things like, „Which one plays in green?“ or „So people from the North support Northern Ireland?“
Its not in the GFA and loyalists will strongly resist any outreach for hands across the border, ultimately they are dole class separatists unlike rugby supporters who by and large work.
Who even makes the team from the north, they’re even more shite than we are.
Football at the end of the day is most popular with the working classes who often project greater senses of nationalism/hooliganism.
Rugby is the exception here because it’s assumed all its supporters are gentlemen and behave as such.
Not saying it’s true but that’s generally how it’s seen.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and I may be wrong but it seems like you’re from the republic? If so, have you been to Windsor park or East Belfast? Are you prepared to go to battle, because they are.
Maybe push for an all-Ireland league first. See how that goes…
Baby steps… and don’t mention a united Ireland whatever you do.
Because us’uns don’t want to support a team with themm’uns associated with it
Let’s start with a few friendlies using a unified squad and see how it actually goes. Unifying leagues would be a mess. Anthem wise you’re talking about a combo of Amhràn na bhfiann and GSTK or nothing at all. Has the possibility of pissing of everyone and ending in disaster
On the list of things needing to be done before we have any football success again, that seems low on the list in terms of effort over reward.
It looks like a no brainer from an international team standpoint but there would be huge questions over the leagues and how the clubs would be affected
Beyond time. As much as I like and associate with our nationalist tradition, and agree with other comments about the anglicism of Irish rugby (though this is as much a class thing as it is a political compromise), I think our understanding and representation of Irishness needs to evolve to facilitate all-Ireland integration in every sense. Actual progress to a united nation is far more important than a song.
You mean Sinn Fein?
I’m personally in favour of a united sports team- but the question is which sports body gets disbanded and where do you base it?
The IFA (north) is the historic „Irish“ FA but it’s based in Belfast- the disbandment of the FAI, moving there and asking them to rename places like „Windsor Park“ would likely ruffle some feathers.
Equally, if you assume the FAI becomes the necleus then you present a situation where the north has been „subsumed“ into the south and you have northern unionists likely wanting symbols like the Tricolour and the Anthem changed or altered.
Would likely need some compromise, but should happen imo.
A sizeable chunk of NI supporters hate Ireland. They would rather lose than unite.
I don’t think this is as clear cut as the rugby.
There’s a fair bit of animosity between the northern club fans towards the ones south of the border and visa versa.
Rugby seems to be fairly civil i don’t personally see the same sentiment being accepted for the football communities.
Because of flegs