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    Schweden schiebt Migranten ab, die sich nicht an eine „ehrliche Lebensführung“ halten


    Schweden schiebt Migranten ab, die sich nicht an eine „ehrliche Lebensführung“ halten

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/sweden-to-deport-migrants-not-following-honest-living/

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    1. Demetre19864 on

      No kidding, it seems like a no brainer, still wondering why Canada hasn’t figured this out.

    2. PowderPills on

      > The new requirement would make it easier to withdraw residence permits for migrants.

      > “Following laws and rules is a given, but it must also be a given that we do our best to live responsibly and not harm our country,” Migration Minister Johan Forssell told a press conference.

      > “If, for example, you ignore paying your debts, if you don’t comply with decisions from Swedish authorities, if you cheat the benefits system, if you cheat your way to a Swedish residence permit… then you do not have the right to be here,” Forssell said.

      > Other examples the government cited as examples included working without paying taxes or not paying fines.

      > “Statements — that is, things a person says or expresses — should not in themselves be regarded as evidence of lack of honest living, but they may be an indication of, for example, links to violent extremism, which can then be a sign of deficient character,” Ludvig Aspling, migration policy spokesman for the anti-immigration Sweden Democrats which is propping up the government, told reporters.

      > The government was also proposing that residence permits could be revoked in more unrelated situations, such as in cases of migrants being considered a threat or if they were discovered to have lied on their applications.

      > If passed by parliament, the changes would go into effect on July 13.

      Assuming you can trust the government there, it seems reasonable? Although things are usually not so black and white.

    4. Pitzy0 on

      Keeping people honest, knowing people are doing their part when immigrating builds respect and trust.

      This is a good strategy on many fronts.

    6. river_tree_nut on

      This is not a radical position. We need more conversations like these to kneecap the anti-immigrant rhetoric. The expectation that immigrants will assimilate and adopt social rules and norms is a key piece of any immigration policy. Sweden is actually doing something productive about it.

    7. Tiny-Run5590 on

      Go back a decade or two and they called us danes racists for not blindly letting in everyone from the middle east lmao.

    9. intelligentx5 on

      I know folks are very much in an anti-deportation mode in the US but if you have individuals that are truly not adding value to the economy, this is a good option.

      I wish we had a point based immigration system that focuses on competency and education. With examinations to prove capacity and capability.

    11. RoleTall2025 on

      People who migrate to other countries need to assimilate and adhere to the cultural norms of the host – period.

      Was naive to think people from war torn countries would suddenly be „western“ and, i dont know, not piss on the pavement.

    12. CoyoteAdmirable8512 on

      Those fascists!!! Migrants have a right to stay in Sweden!!! I can’t believe they enforce their border and immigration laws!!!

    13. RadioFieldCorner on

      Good. If you can’t assimilate, get out. Europe cooked themselves by opening their borders, this is the least they can do to mitigate the problem.

      God forbid a western country wants to keep its culture and heritage alive. It’s okay for all other countries to do it, but not Western apparently. Thankfully this toxic mindset of being called a racist for challenging anything related to immigration is going away. This new generation is changing, for the better.

      Their ancestors fought for thousands of years to defend their borders against countless different empires/barbarians/literal evil like Nazi Germany, only for them to be taken over internally by people who don’t even respect their host.

      A lot of these European cities aren’t even recognizable from what they were 20 years ago.

    14. poorat8686 on

      The western people don’t need immigrants snd are only harmed by their presence. It’s morally wrong to endanger your neighbors by importing backwards and inferior cultures and the awful seeds of humanity that created them.

    16. Cute-Government-5920 on

      I am not against immigration controls in the USA but I am against a National Police force. In the US, people are checked by Immigration when they are booked into county jails. They will get an ICE hold and eventually be transferred to ICE. They were not kicking down doors and asking to see brown people’s paperwork. It was from detention to detention which is reasonable. They allegedly committed a crime to go to county jail.

      A national police force would have to much corruption and power by the controlling administration as seen with ICE.

    17. CisseV on

      Election year in Sweden so of course everyone is gonna try and propose shit that they know they’re not going to be able to pass due to either constitutional or EU law.

    20. dougisnotabitch on

      Well now the question will be, “what will you do with those deemed deportable?” Will you wait and allow them to self deport? Or shut off any social welfare programs once allotted to them? Or will local police turn them over to immigration authorities if they commit criminal acts? Or will half of your country fight tooth against nail against all of the above?

    22. ___xXx__xXx__xXx__ on

      This is a real devil in the detail situation. If it were just a case of kicking out convicted criminals, fine, but if that isn’t already the law in Sweden that’s kind of crazy.

      But not paying your debts? What if I’m in a dispute with someone over whether I owe them money? And don’t comply with decisions of Swedish authorities? What the hell does that mean? A cop gives me an order and if I don’t obey it, I get kicked out?

    23. BillianForsee94 on

      This is objectively a good thing. Immigration itself is *not* a bad thing, but immigrants should be adding value to a country rather than draining resources. This is common sense.

      Edit: generally this is getting upvoted, but sometimes I wonder how something like this possibly receives *any* downvotes. What is there to disagree with?

    24. Nottodayreddit1949 on

      As long as it’s done above board with an independent agency that cannot be controlled by the goverment. I can support things such as this.

      The problem is that when untrustworthy people are put in charge, things like this can be used to target enemies and people they don’t like.

      Introducing laws like this need to also have protections for the people targeted, and the agency itself to prevent harm.

    26. FacetiousInvective2 on

      Yea this makes sense. I would also ban people working without contracts (and punish the contractors who do this)

    27. disisathrowaway on

      I fail to find an issue here.

      The only way immigration works is if those coming to a new country do so with the intent of being honest, productive members of their newly adopted home and assimilate *to a degree*.

      Keep your music, your food, your art, your god(s) and traditions. But moving to a modern, tolerant democracy and wanting to subvert or change or ignore it is not acceptable.

      Being good migrants also means helping to curb much of the anti-immigration rhetoric. Showing up to a new country and then acting up will only hurt you.

    31. sthenurus on

      Jesus. Whoever would do that here in Quebec or Canada would be called a Nazi and cancelled.

      We definitely should look Sweden a lot more when it comes to a lot of things.

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