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35 Kommentare
They already are, in some cases.
I know everyone’s argument will be „well they aren’t overpaid, everyone else is underpaid“, but if we go down this logic then frankly most people should be on about £150k a year middle class. In fact, actually go with inflation figures and PPP of UK in 1998, and you’ll find most middle class job pay today should be £100-150k, and is instead £35k-£50k.
GDP per capita has literally flatlined for 30 years. UK and US were pretty much salary parity.
My role as a Data Scientist in UK is average £55k, myself £70k, very very senior is £110k or so, but that’s the max.
US, a junior will be on $250k, which is already way more than the senior, and cost of living is less. This countries wage/cost has gone down the toilet, and the government wonders why everyone’s leaving and thinking importing millions from the third world will help the matter.
So pay surgeons more? Prices are never coming down, if you want affordability, wages have to go up.
Good for them, probably the best example of unions doing right by their members.
Oh no, not a union trying to get the best deal for it’s members…
Maybe the surgeons should strike more.
But to be fair a tube driver is responsible for hundreds of lives at a time, whilst driving many tons of vehicle around in millions of pounds worth of critical capital city infrastructure.
So, y’know.
I need to join this union and I’m not a train driver
Ill drive the trains for what they are on now I dont need a pay increase, I drive a class 2 truck and that’s not much above minimum wage
Sounds like we all need to unionise!
Just in time for ai and others to take a chunk of the jobs market, combined with squeeze on market by costs of living rising year in and out, so reduced consumer disposable income to spend / less need to jobs go fulfil demand
Wage compression in the last 3 or so decades, not helped by minimum wage along with „progressive“ taxation, is a massive, massive problem.
Well that’s exactly what a union is supposed to do.
Then adjust their demands based on the employers counter offer and realistic expectations.
And tube drivers should be looking for a last final payday as they’ll be replaced by AI drivers in the very near future.
That’s not a promotion of AI, its just a sad fact that tube driving is entirely replaceable with existing technology.
I can’t say I’m not bitter my union isn’t that powerful or my job that important
As do footballers. But no-one seems up in arms about that
Telegraph not liking the core aspect of Capitalism is interesting
The dumb fuckwits complaining are the ones who don’t or aren’t part of a union that actually knows how to negotiate.
My union got us inflation matching pay deals for every single year I have been there since I started in 2015. Along with my promotions and inflationary pay rises, my pay has increased by 142%.
If you want this, join a fucking union and stop moaning.
Why should we NOT want people to earn more if they can?
Stop being failures and do something about it.
I’ll happily drive the train for 70% of what they are currently paid and I’d highly enjoy it .
Getting those jobs seems to be pure nepotism though .
How come the media is only outraged when it’s about working class people’s salaries? How about we criticise those overpaid “journalists”?
Trains are a fully automatable job if infrastructure is contemporary. Instead of paying individuals more use the money to update the infrastructure for longer term gains
The greedy bastards want extra pay, for sitting on their ass all day
The Telegraph had their Tories mates in power for nearly a decade and a half and they absolutely killed the country. Killed growth, killed jobs, killed any chance of a wage recovery after 2008, killed trade with our biggest partners in Europe, killed our reputation.
At this point I think it’s safe to say they actively wish harm on the people of this country.
If we can have self driving car allowed on manic roads, tube drivers can be replaced with AI. Its a fixed track, the stations don’t move.
The TORYgraph is not happy with workers earning a decent pay again. Shocked…
Good for them
Mabe the surgeons should form an effective union too
Is it that tube drivers are paid too much?… maybe, maybe not.
Is it that surgeons are paid FAR too little? …definitely!
Who on earth believes anything the Telegraph has to say?
Isn’t this just because tube drivers have a good union? Maybe surgeons should band together and get a solid union that fights for better wages
Tube drivers want a rise to meet inflation, and everyone cries a stupid telegraph article gets lots of comments… Mps get rises above inflation year on year and no one bats an eye lid….
If you dont get rises to meet inflation join a union, get ur coworkers to join a union create a union rep in ur company, vote in mps that will tax your ceos (that most go an adore on linkedin), vote in mps that will fight for labour laws… stop crying about crumbs. Or just change job ffs…
That pay and all the blow they can do. A responsible job that requires fuck all effort. Obscene levels of pay. They don’t deserve it and becasue they’re union is so militant is why they are paid so much. Might as well enjoy it until automation takes over.
Surgeons cant hold a city to ransom.
Seems like the surgeons should sort their union out.
Tube drivers / train drivers just need to be automated – end of problem. Honestly robots will be doing this job in 5 years.
That’s just highlighting that our surgeons should be paid better
Hey look, a tory rag is mad about people being paid more
Sounds like surgeons aren’t being paid enough. Also sounds like CEOs are being paid too much
I’ve never been for union busting, but the train drivers union doesn’t half take the piss
People complaining about tube drivers getting paid a lot remind me of people I know the pit village I grew up in up north when they talk about london.
Gets every that place. It’s unfair.
Well you could move there like I did.z
I’d never live in that shit-hole if you paid me.
Not that I am saying moving to, and building a life, in london is as hard as driving through darkness with the fear that somebody might, at any moment, use your office to commit suicide. I am just saying that, as a working class lad, most of the options you have, that pay more than other options, come with some form of small print.
So the take away lesson here is that surgeons should get better Union reps