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42 Kommentare
It’s amazing how Trump can openly insult the UK, our government, and the memories of soldiers who have died fighting for their interests – yet we still follow their call every time. Why are we following this illegal, messy, unpopular war under the false pretence of „defensive operations“?
Like why can’t we have a coherent message here? One day we make a big statement saying they can’t use them but then a week later it’s completely reversed
Sure enough, any semblance of courage Starmer had in standing up to Trump and not getting the UK *directly* involved in this conflict has melted away. Was perhaps foolish to think his cowardly tendencies wouldn’t get the better of him and see him kowtow to the US sooner rather than later. Spain has shown that standing up to Trump on this is more than feasible, but no, Starmer would rather ensure the UK is a good little vassal state.
It’s vile enough involving the UK in another illegal war in the Middle East, but this puts *all of us* in so much more danger, and for what? The interests of Israel and the US?
The way Trump has talked about us and singled us out while using our bases – now we give in to even more of his demands. How long do you think it will take for him to talk more crap about us? We have a humiliation ritual.
Starmer was doing so well on this issue for the past 2/3 weeks, why does he have to ruin it again with another u-turn
Feels like we maybe should have waited until Dragon was actually in position and we could fully defend Cyprus before publicly announcing this…
Where is Starmer’s backbone? I don’t want to be involved in an illegal war or coerced into it. I understand oil prices are sky rocketing but that’s not our business to fix. USA created this mess, they have won the war, haven’t they? They said they didn’t need us, and so we can leave them be to sort it out.
Trump spits in our face and all Starmer does is swallow
Fuck that, tell these cunts to fuck off after that orange motherfuckers comments.
Get them the fuck out of our bases.
450 + British soldiers died fighting for them in Afghanistan and Iraq. Absolutely never again.
Well he found a way to mess this up. Don’t think anyone had any issues with only allowing defensive operations, but allowing offensive actions is going to get us involved. And this is after that orange turnip insulted our nation’s troops of cowering behind the front lines, said of Kier that ‚he’s no Churchill‘, and accusing of NATO not getting involved to help the war aims he started, but also said he doesn’t need help bc it’s won.
If I was on Akrotiri, Dhekelia, or any other UK base in the Middle East area, I’d be VERY worried. This is gonna give Iran carte blanche to attack any UK base.
Oh my fucking god he’s such a fucking walkover. He lets Trump shittalk him and our entire country over and over, berate us, disrespect our troops, people, opinions and culture and then after finally seeming to grow a fucking spine he crumbles after like two days, just after people start to respect him for not kowtowing to the US for the first time.
I don’t see how this changes anything. Starmer allowed offensive operations from UK airbases by the US weeks ago so long as the targets were drone or missile launch sites.
This is still within the scope of what he allowed earlier: defensive strikes at locations Iran is launching missiles from.
If that Strait isn’t opened many countries will be f**ked, so no this isn’t Blair/Iraq.
I’m genuinely torn on this. On the one hand I don’t like the escalation. On the other hand, something did have to be done about Iran targeting neutral shipping in the straits. Iran’s actions are a breach of international law and are also legally piracy.
Please please just tell Trump to fuck off, it’s what the British people want according to polling. The electorate has been very clear that they want no part of this war of aggression.
Doesn’t this mean Iran can now strike the British bases? I’m not sure Iran has missiles that travel that far, but I believe the bases are now a legitimate target.
The far left angry we’re letting someone else use our base to defend our interests. With the strait shut we’re baling out energy bills this winter and mortgage rates are projected to go above 5% based on a short dispute. A long closure will mean Liz truss rates back.
The far right angry we aren’t wiping Iran off the planet.
Poor old Kier can’t win.
Let’s get this straight. We are meant to be working towards de-escalation so we can end this farce, but instead we are making it easier for the Americans to strike Iran. Providing military infrastructure for strikes is a significant step toward war, not away from it. It draws the UK deeper into the conflict. It removes a layer of restraint , and undermines our ability to be a moderating influence. Absolute joke. But hey , it’s the same government that is selling weapons to Israel while it is carrying out a genocide. I hope they get totally wiped out in the elections.
Why? This is a terrible move that puts our bases at risk (as valid military targets), we should be telling the US and Israel to solve their own problem.
This is clearly support for offensive strikes, it involves us in a way that even the plausible deniability is gone. And for what benefit? To placate a clown who insults and demeans us at every turn?
It isn’t even that strategic for our interests, not much of our energy comes through there anyway.
Just when I thought Starmer might actually be doing something good.
For all those in this thread claiming Starmer was good up until now, or that this is a U-turn etc.
This is the same policy of defence we have had for a week, nothing has changed
Oh for fuck sake, let the orange clown bury himself, why get involved
Starmer literally has a trump card to stop the bombing. We have the only airfield in Europe with a runway capable of launching the Bombers.
Withdraw their access
The only way the strait is reopening in my opinion is when the US gets away from it.
Helping them in any way is kind of guaranteeing
the strait stays closed.
We need to be condemning the whole thing not helping.
No! No! No! FFS Starmer. THIS is weak. Trump is not your friend. The US serves itself and itself only. You’re dragging us into a conflict we want absolutely no part of.
Inb4 the UK joins the war after Iran targets bases being used by the US
Please everyone calm down and certainly do not propose any absurd antisemitic theories that Israel controls the world.
Wow Starmer u turned are we shocked or surprised lol
Of course Starmer kowtows to Trump, one more nail in the coffin of Labour.
The US was already using British airbases to strike Iran. This is just letting the cat out of the bag.
Starmer put us all at risk – in order to participate in an illegal war. Iran has said that opening its bases to US attacks will be judged as direct involvement, raising the stakes in an already volatile standoff.
This headline genuinely just made me feel very sad…😔
Great, we’re getting involved in the forever war.
Forcing the Strait open just removes the only way this could end. With too much political/economic pressure on Trump to continue.
Without actually occupying basically the entire coastline permanently, how is the Strait ever going to be safe now?
This will only embolden trump, giving the appearance of allied support and extend the duration of the war and therefore the closure of the strait. America and isreal could bomb iran for years and it wouldn’t make a difference. Absolutely disastrous decision as usual from starmer
He does know that the strait is only closed to people targeting Iran right?,… right?
The staits of hormuz is still open, 400 ships a day go through the staits. Trump is not bombing Iran to get the straits open. They are already open.
Its a fucking bit of tarmac, it aint risking lives ffs
Other than making the UK a terrorist target, how is this in the interest of the UK?
Fucking hell.
Just no. Freeze the USA out. They’re a rogue state that caused this damn mess. Don’t let then stage anything from UK bases and pressure then to stop this absolute fuckery
This is going to bury Labour. Starmer really is a fucking clown. U-turning cunt.
Spineless Starmer, Trump has done nothing but insult this country and the wider continent, fuck that big orange dickhead.
For a football fan, Starmer really struggles to score an open goal.