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    Baugenehmigung für Stonehenge-Tunnel widerrufen, nachdem Millionen ausgegeben wurden


    Baugenehmigung für Stonehenge-Tunnel widerrufen, nachdem Millionen ausgegeben wurden

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7959v897n9o

    Von insomnimax_99

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    1. insomnimax_99 on

      >The A303 scheme was originally given planning permission in 2023, but was scrapped due to financial reasons in 2024, having already had £179.2m spent on it.

      Where has all that money gone? They’ve spent £180 million and literally have nothing to show for it – no construction work has been done. That’s outrageous.

      In a normal world this would be a national scandal and heads would roll, but pissing obscene amounts of money down the drain on bureaucracy with no tangible results seems to be just another day in our planning system.

      This has been in the works since around 2007. Why can’t we build a simple tunnel with £180m and almost two decades?

      Our planning system needs to be nuked from orbit.

    2. YOU_CANT_GILD_ME on

      > having already had £179.2m spent on it.

      How the fuck have they already spent £179.2m on this when nothing has been built?

    3. OverCategory6046 on

      >having already had £179.2m spent on it.

      179m on something that didn’t get built? how the fuck

    4. AllThatIHaveDone on

      It’s important that we maintain our ancient and grand tradition of building absolutely fucking nothing whatsoever. It’s what our henge-building ancestors would have wanted.

    5. Chemistry-Deep on

      I wonder if the Neolithic people had this much trouble getting planning consent to build Stonehenge in the first place?

    6. PerLin107 on

      Heads should roll for this. It is a national scandal.names shoud be named. We sre not talking about hundreds of thousands but hundreds of MILLIONS

    7. Electrical_Crazy_254 on

      A lot of money was spent laying power and comms lines along the A360 in preparation for the work to start (which, of course, was cancelled as soon as Labour got in).

    8. Any-Republic-4269 on

      The thing presumably needed some design and engineering before and during the planning process. It runs through a World Heritage Site and arguably one of the world’s most famous monuments. Was actually going to destroy part of said site – so ‚consultants‘ isn’t really the answer. It’s been hugely complex and controversial. Our planning system is slow and dysfunctional but I don’t think, for once, ‚planners‘ and ‚consultants‘ are the reason something’s not been built at great expense here.

    10. cartesian5th on

      Once again taxpayers bled dry in return for absolutely fuck all. Joke of a country

    11. Worried-Penalty8744 on

      Hope no one in that area ever makes a _single_ complaint again about traffic on the A303 or local roads as a result of this

    13. TrickMathematician31 on

      The tunnel was going to cost at least £2 billion.

      Hardly a priority project either.

    15. DrPeroxide on

      The project wasn’t exactly popular in the first place, having been pushed forward by the Tory’s in spite of public backlash and the many issues raised. Personally I’m glad to hear it’s been put to bed, but it doesn’t make the waste of money sting any less.

    16. Ok-Western3626 on

      While the sum wasted is eye-watering, it would have cost 10 times that to build the thing, all to shorten the peak time queue by 2 miles at that point, and relocate the bottleneck to the next single carriageway section of the A303. Surely there are better ways to spend £1.5 billion.

    17. Lplus on

      If you insist on consulting everybody, most of whom have fanatical (usually environmental) reasons for saying no, what do you expect?

    18. katie-kaboom on

      Bit of a misleading headline, isn’t it? Planning permission wasn’t revoked from an active building site. The project has been mothballed for two years, after £179 million was spent in the initial planning stages and then it was decided it was too expensive. This is just cleaning up the mess.

    19. House_Of_Thoth on

      And just imagine – they could have simply took the easy option of extending the road around and away from Stonehenge. But no… let’s build a stupid tunnel underneath an ancient monument because there’s clearly no room for a road in the hundreds of surrounding acres of flat, empty land

      This ridiculous story just gets more and more ridiculous. And people wonder why politicians are hated

    20. _Monsterguy_ on

      HS2 was announced in 2009, it was to be 330miles of high speed rail connecting London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leeds/Sheffield.

      Some time around 2036 or maybe 2039, we’ll get 140miles (225km) of HS2.

      China has built 48,000km of high-speed rail since 2009.

    21. balanced_view on

      Incredible how much people can spunk away on planning something like this. What a bloody stitch-up.

    22. RoyalJacko on

      The A303 Stonehenge tunnel project has been in some form of planning for over 30 years; they have spent over £179.2 million, and it’s not even going ahead. How can our country go on like this? Our planning system is broken, and this is not a one-off instance either.

    23. TheZYX on

      *’In light of the project’s „exceptional circumstances“, which it said includes „a substantial change in the scheme’s deliverability“ since the DCO was approved and that it „no longer aligns with current strategic policy objectives“* … meaning ‚we need the money elsewhere lads‘

    24. i_anglepoise on

      This tweet from Tom Gara lives rent free in my head whenever Stonehenge is mentioned:

      „Randomly on this subject, my (Egyptian) wife had never heard of Stonehenge when I mentioned it recently, so I showed her photos of it, assuming she’d recognize the look but not the name etc, and she was just like, this is pathetic, your ancestors were small and weak“.

      It is still pathetic.

    25. SidneySmut on

      The key priority for „build baby build“ UK is that we continue not to build a necessary, strategic highway improvements because preserving views of 3000yo stone circle half a mile away are far more important. It’s vital that our national priorities focus on looking backwards at all times. Oh yeah, I almost forgot

      Stonehenge, where the demons dwell
      Where the banshees live and they do live well
      Stonehenge where a man is a man
      And the children dance to the pipes of pan

    26. Karen_Is_ASlur on

      What’s the argument against building the tunnel – is it a conservation thing, protecting other archaeological sites in the area?

    27. CaptainZippi on

      Sounds like a reasonable thing to do if the estimate of cost was spiralling.

      The point is to get transport improved, not line the pockets of developers who lowballed the offer thinking they could make it up in the overrun.

    28. Sea-Tomorrow2583 on

      As usual millions given to consultant groups who take the piss
      New Wembley stadium was the same

    29. Woffingshire on

      According to the article the project was effectively cancelled 2 years ago because of financial problems.

      The only change now is that the government has actually taken away the planning permission because the project the permission is for is likely to never have never got built in the first place.

    30. CaptainZippi on

      This sub seems to be filled with people who think that big projects are done just by deciding to do it, and then turning up with a spade.

      Anybody who’s done any amount of large project planning knows that level of detail that has to be considered, consulted, and agreed before actually “doing something”

      (Source: did a few medium scale IT projects)

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