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> Zack Polanski is facing pressure from dozens of MPs to officially ditch the Green Party’s maternity policy seeking to reduce birth interventions “with immediate effect”.
>The Green Party apologised “unreservedly” in 2024 for the upset caused by its health policy, which pledged to reduce the rate of caesarean sections, describing them as “expensive and, when not medically required, risky”.
Problem with this is that Green MPs don’t set Green Party policy and under the current party structure couldn’t make the decision to ditch it. It would need to go through conference – so October and be voted on by attendees. Given how conference usually goes, no saying it’ll even get tabled.
That being said I am fairly sure there is a policy working group working on the health policy so hopefully they have addressed this section as I believe that is due to come to Spring conference.
The greens believe Birth should be a non-medical event?
They really are crazy.
To be honest the party just needs a clear out of all the woo woo stuff thats clearly built up over the years as a pressure group. Reorient themselves towards more liberal social policy (scrapping surveillance state crap) and energy independence that can go in conjunction with lowering emissions and throw the hippy stuff in the bin.
There is currently an investigation into maternity deaths in my region literally because women’s distress was being ignored and there was a “normal” childbirth policy.
What a nothing story
A policy that isn’t officially supported, isn’t on the website and that the leader of the party has said will be reviewed with professionals
But labour MPs demand it’s dropped
How about they get their own house in order first
Dozens of MPs telling a different party who aren’t in government to change their policy.
you know the right people are panicking with the amount of misinformation being released about the greens lol
The natural/home birth sisterhood is strong amongst the hippie woo communities. There’s lots of great solidarity and advice, and even doolahs.
But they never talk about the home birth attempts that didn’t go smoothly. Except to blame the NHS ambulance service for not attending within 4 minutes of them changing their mind.
That said, having either an NHS target or any political party policy, about the type of birth experience mothers should have, if it’s not simply about better support and more funding, it’s creepy and invasive.
The amount of pressure that is put on women around pregnancy and childbirth is unbelievable. They’re made to feel like failures if they can’t breastfeed or (apparently according to the Greens) having an „abnormal“ birth.
When they say „change the culture“ they are parroting the old trope that caesareans are the lazy way to give birth. For those green supporters claiming this is a nothing story, why did they feel the need to unreservedly apologise for this policy?
This has not been policy since 2024. It did not appear in the last manifesto and is not in the list of conference approved policies.
This is quite a pathetic attempt to smear the Greens.
When I was unwell during the end of my pregnancy I was constantly told by doctors “if you don’t have a c-section your baby may die in utero.” I kept saying “give me the c-section then?” And they’d respond with something along the lines of “unfortunately that isn’t your choice.”
In the end they induced me, at that point, as a first time mother, just wanting to keep my baby alive, I followed their instructions. The induction was awful, I was in labour for days and they wouldn’t give me pain relief as they said “it’s good that you’re in pain, it means the induction is working.” Eventually my baby got stuck in the birth canal and I was rushed into theatre for an emergency c-section, my baby had to be resuscitated and was in hospital on oxygen with a feeding tube for 6 weeks afterwards. They wouldn’t let me hold her or breast feed her, the abuse was abysmal and vile, I’ll never have another baby because of this.
>The policy was deleted from its website and was not included in the election manifesto, but Mr Polanski told Sky News at the time, “it’s not that we have changed our minds”, adding expert advice would be needed before it could be included.
>There has been speculation in recent days that the party plans on officially withdrawing the policy, but more than 50 Labour MPs have written to Mr Polanski urging him to officially abandon the policy immediately.
Bit unclear if they actually still support it, they’re certainly not publishing it or advocating for it currently, they just haven’t taken an official vote to reverse the policy. Kind of feels like Labour reaching for an attack line to try and stop their voters bleeding away to Green.
“it was deleted from its website and did not appear in their 2024 election manifesto” this is a campaign by labour mps to smear the greens, nothing further
Ah yes, the Party who HAS NEVER BEEN IN POWER needs to change its policies because they are harmful.
Meanwhile, regarding the party currently in power causing massive harm to millions of people, nothing is said.
Call me unconvinced about how sincere this article’s author is.
>“… but more than 50 Labour MPs have written to Mr Polanski“
Interesting group of people to be concerned about this
Banning all animal testing used to be in there as well.
They can either accept that this will end all biotechnology and pharma industry and research in the UK, or at least they should write up a document outline exactly which humans will first receive the unsafe, untested medicine and what the grounds for selection are….
Absolutely ludicrous given the state of maternity care in the NHS. This is not the time for doulas 🙄
I honestly think this will all be weeded out now that the greens are a serious party. I’m a big supporter of the Greens and Polanski and a lot of this stuff predates him. He speaks a lot of sense about a lot of stuff and it seems like as we get closer to the parties releasing their manifestos, lots of this will change. Or at least I hope it will
Bit of a non story this, as the policy is already up for review at spring conference in a few weeks.
I think the aim of reducing c-sections is reasonable, and could be easily achieved by improving maternity care generally.
Some mothers have c-sections which could have been avoided if midwives had more time to look after each mum, and spot any deterioration earlier. Some mums understandably prefer a planned c-section rather than spending more time on an understaffed labour ward
As long as this doesn’t result in women being unreasonably denied c-sections, it probably makes for a good policy.
My view is: Humans have stopped evolving via natural selection. Rightly, women do night die in large numbers during childbirth anymore.
As nutrition has improved average baby birthweights have increased, but female pelvis’ have not increased in size at the same rate. Because there’s no evolutionary pressure to make that happen.
The end result is that “natural” childbirth is not natural anymore, your average birth canal is squeezing a bigger baby through it than is ideal.
And, of course, more babies are being born via Caesarian section.
I see “medicalisation” of pregnancy as a necessary result of humans advancing beyond natural selection as we now have.
I’m just a guy but I think this is something **WOMEN** and _medics_ should decide. Don’t get why politicians want to get involved.
Nice to see blue labour has finally, begrudgingly, accepted the party is weak to its left flank