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    Meinung: Hondas Abschaffung seiner Elektrofahrzeuge ist die erschütterndste Auto-Nachricht aller Zeiten … hier ist der Grund dafür


    Meinung: Hondas Abschaffung seiner Elektrofahrzeuge ist die erschütterndste Auto-Nachricht aller Zeiten … hier ist der Grund dafür

    https://www.topgear.com/car-news/opinion/opinion-honda-killing-its-evs-most-staggering-car-news-ever-heres-why

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    1. Wyciorek on

      >But that’s not the reason Honda has given for this cataclysmic halt order. It’s blamed geopolitical tensions, Trump tariffs, and cooling demand for EVs and governments wobbling on deadlines to go all-in on EVs. All of which is fair enough, I mean: can you remember the last time you went a week without hearing the words ‘unprecedented crisis’ in the news? We’ve been in non-stop tumult since Covid.

      Oil going to the moon? Time to axe EVs and double down on ICE. What could possibly go wrong?

    2. rzwitserloot on

      „There are so many geopolitical tensions, clearly we must stop with the car that can get its power from things one can build nearly anywhere, and continue with the older concept that gets its power from places that attract geopolitical tension like shit attracts flies, and which is _the source of the geopolitical tension that has set off this latest knee jerk response_“.

      At some point you must trust that we’re being fed a line of bullshit, because even CEOs can’t be __this__ fucking stupid, right?

    3. jroot on

      Honda has fallen off since the 90s. I suspect they are just focusing on what little still works rather than trying to evolve into something new

    4. tacodestroyer99 on

      Rédditors will yap all day about an AI bubble while sweating mightily trying to ignore the ongoing EV crash brought about by Chinese dumping the market. Even Chinese car makers are diversifying their offerings. That’s why nobody goes to rédditors for financial advice or predictions about the future.

    6. MetalDogBeerGuy on

      Politicians ‘wobbling’ on EV commitment can be read as ‘oil lobby effective’. As long as oil and gas continues to wield such extreme wealth and influence they will always do their best to torpedo any efforts to reduce our dependence on their product.

    7. Vossky on

      Honda has the best hybrid technology on the market while their EVs are very lackluster. Makes sense to focus on what they do best, they are big enough to just buyout one or several small EV manufacturers (like Polestar for example) when hybrids are no longer in demand and they want to switch to EV.

    9. kon--- on

      Auto brands have got to make up their minds and commit already. Stop all this wishy washy nonsense and get into the EV market.

      Look at what BMW is doing. They went from sharing platforms to going all in on EV specific chassis. Their plan is to roll out an EV version of each ICE variant already offered. They began whole new model line, the Neue Klasse. Their first offering, the iX3’s production can not keep up with its current demand. A vehicle that hasn’t been released to the public, hasn’t been test driven, and it can not keep up with demand.

      A luxury brand’s, imported EV that faces all the same market and tariff challenges that Honda cited as why they’ve backed off yet, BMW is committed and now positioned to do well in the luxury EV segment in the US.

      Unfortuntely, Honda dropped the ball then showed up making excuses.

    10. acelaya35 on

      China is going to own the global automarket in 10 years.  The US is going to be the lone hold out and have a Cubaesque car culture in 20 years.

    11. Jessintheend on

      That really sucks. Especially since their latest round of concepts I think really fucking hit the nail on the head for simple styling across a range of cars.

      Now they’re axing EVs just in time for gas prices to spike and a very large amount of oil infrastructure in the largest oil producing countries to be blown to smithereens and it’ll take a very long time to fix.

      If Honda had managed to come out with a small (er than the giant ass prologue) and got it close to $30k, they’d sell well. I see tons of electric Hyundais, teslas, Porsche, bmw, rivian, even fucking polestars around here. And people love Honda, they still have a very solid brand reputation.

      This feels short sighted, about a fiscal quarter short…and it’s gonna kneecap them in the future

    12. CustardSubstantial25 on

      In the region I live in most of the people that want an EV have already got one. Sales have cooled. Ev’s are not right for everyone, they are a terrible fit for me personally even if I wasn’t without a garage or carport or anywhere to install the charging infrastructure at my home. Not that I could afford the 8-10k for it anyways. I live in an area of big work commutes, hot summers cold winters and traffic jams. There are already massive lines at all the charging stations as well.

    13. series-hybrid on

      Nobody is asking me, but….I would have advised Honda to continue at least one model as a pure EV, perhaps the model that was likely to be the most popular among their core demographic. In the US, there is a certain Honda fanaticism among the upper middle class.

      Owning a Honda is seen as less snooty than a Mercedes or BMW, but nicer than common American brands. They have a reputation for reliability that is the envy of the industry.

      I think the SUV on the right side of the pic is a winner, and the article says the battery they chose to design only has 300 miles of range. For older Americans who have owned Honda’s, they don’t drive long distances.

    16. Mlabonte21 on

      And these same automakers are all gonna be shocked and caught on the back foot when Slate EV trucks go flying off the lots later this year.

      Guaranteed

    17. Noobphobia on

      I remember when I used to get downvoted for informing people that ev adoption by the majority was still 30 years away, 10 years ago. Still holds true!

      All the better solidified now that I work in automotive. The current estimate is a 2% reduction in new and used car sales this year. With auto makers changing from ev back to hybrids to join Toyota.

    18. ECHLN on

      Full electric was bound to fail. It only truly works in a handful of markets. Hybrids are the way forward. Best of both

    19. AdSolid3265 on

      I don’t see Toyota canceling any of their EV’s, they just released 3 this year in US. Honda is late with hybrids because of bad decisions now they will be late with EV’s when they become popular. They should just follow what’s Toyota doing.

    20. heart_of_osiris on

      I have only ever driven Hondas. Now, for the first time in decades of driving, I wont be buying one. I have immense brand loyalty to them, but in this day and age this is a deal breaker. Sad, man.

    22. Averse_to_Liars on

      The consumer economy is planned for closure. Coming next: pure coercion.

      Brands like Honda aren’t going to be around.

    23. cincydude123 on

      Hear me out….what if you didn’t wait for massive government subsidies and just provided what the people want? An affordable EV?

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