Gouverneure warnen vor zunehmender Gewalt von „nichts zu verlieren“-Insassen, die berüchtigte Gefangene angreifen

Solitary confinement is what they deserve and what would keep them safe, but apparently that’s against their human rights. So sometimes one of them will just get stabbed, I guess.

This thread is full of average redditor takes, who have no idea what prison functions like or what happens in them. I’ve been to prison and they’re the most dysfunctional and chaotic places ever and that’s not the fault of the prisoners.

The environment within prisons is absolutely appalling. Prisoners get taken advantage of with zero recourse to do anything about it.

So why are they so violent? Isn’t it the prisoners fault for being that way? Not really… They’re made that way due to the environment they’re expected to function within.
Due to the multiple governors within prisons constantly skimming off the top of budgets, prisoners are left in a constant environment of scarcity. That breeds a mindset of taking anything that you can get. The more physical prisoners end up with everything and the smaller weaker ones who don’t find a place on the wing are left to rot.
Everything becomes currency, from vapes to clothes to favours.

If you ask for something you won’t get it either at all, or for a very long time. That means you end up having to illicitly trade on the wing. A lot of people trade medications for stuff, anything they can get. The trading is rampant to the point officers just blindly accept it. They have to, this leads to constant issues with people lending and paying and fighting over the silliest things. It turns the wing against itself.

These issues end up causing staff shortages due to either overwork or lack of staff in particular days, that then compounds outward into the system. People are locked up with no access to the kiosk systems or showers except maybe briefly for 2 minutes when they get their tea. This makes the wing even louder and more angry than it was.

The issues build and build because of really trivial things because the upper management have no idea what to do. Our culture treats prisoners like shite and it is reflected in the system itself. Treating prisoners like shite does not make them come out of prison rehabilitated. It’s such an obvious point that prisons miss. Prison should be about building people back up to become better people and not destroying them further, which they already have been by the legal and court process. That is probably the worst part of it.

Prisoners like Ian Watkins, and Huntley are most of the time confined to solitary for their own protection and the way they’re treated is kind of where everything collides.

If society says we can’t kill them then we must keep them alive. If we keep them alive then we must give them some sort of life to live. It’s well and good being a basement redditor and claiming they should be treated like shit and locked up all day, but if they get treated like shit, so does everyone else, they’re all in the same system together. It’s not an easy issue to solve because some prisoners have a chance at rebuilding their lives whereas prisoners like Ian Huntley do not. So what do we do with them? What do we do with people like him? They have to be either given a life to live where they become useful in some way or we legalise the death penalty. The longer we stay within this strange mentality, everyone suffers. The category system needs a massive rework.

In my opinion, people like Ian huntley should be placed in a labour camp. Given an acceptable quality of life and be put to work doing things that benefit society. We will never go back and change his crimes, but we can at least find value in his existence. I’m not a believer in the death penalty on a moral standpoint so I cannot advocate for it.

Prisons are so full that people are literally being shipped into Cat B facilities which are some of the worst we have.
Some of these people aren’t in for bad things. I was put in a cat b, sharing the same air as murderers… That makes zero sense.

Reform is needed and so is a mindset change in our culture. The press needs to be held accountable for the way they’ve shaped social attitudes. Improving a quality of life in prisons is constantly falsely compared to turning prisons into holiday camps and they’re really not. Having access to a TV in prison isn’t some sort of holiday luxury, it’s a distraction that people need. If everyone was locked in a box with nothing to do, they will find something to do. That is why drugs are rampant within prisons. It is a form of escapism that becomes much more enticing when people don’t have access to anything. That solves nothing.

The police also need to be held accountable for their treatment of the general public. The way police treat people is fucking disgusting at times. They don’t act like public servants, they act like public gatekeepers and rule by fear. That is not a public servant and their force first approach to everything does not fix anything. They have a complete lack of humanity towards people they deal with. Police lockup cells are probably some of the worst places I’ve ever witnessed. Putting arrested people in cold rooms for days and without a proper bed or sanitary conditions isn’t normal. It’s a horrible thing to do to people.

It certainly doesn’t help when we have TV shows making a joke out of people experiencing the worst crises of their lives. I’ll never forget that channel four show about police lockups where they played comical music, showed police playing around in equipment rooms and taking the piss out of clearly damaged individuals. It needs changing and fast.

Prisons need a massive reform before we have another 90s riot situation, because believe me, we are a lot closer to that than most of the public realise

I have always said that violent offenders serving long sentences should all be shipped off to a „Love Island“, where no one else lives. Give them enough supplies for a month and let them all be free to do what they want. It would save the taxpayer millions.

[https://www.nacro.org.uk/news/nacro-responds-to-new-data-on-the-rising-costs-of-prisons-in-england-and-wales/](https://www.nacro.org.uk/news/nacro-responds-to-new-data-on-the-rising-costs-of-prisons-in-england-and-wales/)