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    Hunderte von Hausärzten berichten der BBC, dass sie nie eine Krankschreibung wegen psychischer Bedenken abgelehnt haben


    Hunderte von Hausärzten berichten der BBC, dass sie nie eine Krankschreibung wegen psychischer Bedenken abgelehnt haben

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20lew24kngo

    Von topotaul

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    17 Kommentare

    1. Ver_Void on

      Seems like a problem with the concept of sick notes to me, if you’re having a crap mental health day you should be able to take a day off and wasting a doctor’s time doesn’t help anyone. Not like you can’t just as easily feign a headache or something else anyway

    2. The-Road-To-Awe on

      There’s been increased legal action and unfair coroner criticism against GP’s recently, and mental health is a subjective diagnosis in many ways. How can a GP refuse a sick note and be confident they aren’t going to find themselves the subject of an article titled „GP declined to sign off patient who killed themselves the next day“ ?

    3. alinalovescrisps on

      Whose job should it be to issue fit notes if not a GP? Obviously if someone is under the care of secondary mental health services then their team should do it but if not then surely the GP. It’s a shit system for them because it must be really difficult for them to assess whether someone is fit for work during a 10 minute consult, but there’s no one else to do it.

    4. SimpleSide429 on

      GPs shouldn’t have to provide long term sick notes. After a set amount of time (a month?) patients should have to either see occupational health at work or start claiming benefits, where they would be assessed by someone trained in assessing work capability. If we’re being honest people off sick for a month with their mental health should be offered specialist support from the NHS too, but that doesn’t happen.

    5. nerdyHyena93 on

      Someone I know who works in the NHS called a GP to say he had suicidal thoughts just to get a month off. He then went on holiday with his partner for 6 weeks on some tour. I find it concerning that the GP administered medication to a person who has never taken them without a face to face consultation if I’m honest.

      I find it quite offensive because I actually suffer from depression and have a history of suicide attempts. It’s the people taking the piss who put the actual sick people at risk.

    6. thereisalwaysrescue on

      I’ve recently had to take a sick note for 8 weeks for “stress”; mum has cancer and needs surgery, and her sister died. My work refused a day off for the funeral (you’re only allowed it for close family and I couldn’t swap a shift with anyone), and then I was denied a weeks annual leave for my mums surgery. My GP signed me off after I attempted to do am everything else the right away; offering shift swaps, annual leave and unpaid leave.

      I’m a Nurse by the way! I literally work in the NHS!

    7. Prize-Meeting-7101 on

      Just because you cannt see the injury doesn’t mean it isn’t there. Just because you ignored it in the past doesn’t mean you should continue to now. If companies want to reduce sick day due to mental health issues then maybe they should operate in a way to reduce stress and anxiety for its employees.

    8. NoAssociate7880 on

      Also depends if you get a good GP or a terrible one, some are noticeably worse than others.

    9. citizenrobespierre1 on

      Fail to see how this is a bad thing.

      Side note – my mother once tried to kill herself. I tried to get the day off the next day so I could go and see her. Told my then-boss the situation. She said, ’no, we really can’t spare you, sorry‘. When I was pregnant with my son, there was an emergency where they thought the baby might be in trouble, and I had to go in for an emergency scan to see if he was still alive (he was). Rang my husband at work, he goes to his boss and asks to leave and be with me. Her answer? ‚No, I can’t spare you today, sorry‘.

      GPs aren’t the villains, here.

    10. Available-Nose-5666 on

      There’s some people with crippling anxiety and depression and will still push themselves to go to work until we burn out and don’t have a choice but to obtain a sick note. Employers are at fault sometimes. If they create safe environments for staff then great.

    11. Appropriate-Gap6817 on

      The role of the GP is not to objectively access whether a person is capable to work given the symptoms of a specific physical or mental health condition- that kind of assessment is far beyond the scope of a 10 minute consultation and is more the remit of the DWP and occupational health doctors. All a GP is doing in signing a sick note is confirming that the patient does in fact have the condition they claim is making them incapable of working. It’s the responsibility of the work place to provide adaptations as are appropriate and available to facilitate people to work when they have debilitating illnesses, and it’s the role of the DWP to assess whether someone is truly unable to work and eligible for universal credit. Also having a sick note doesn’t make you immune to dismissal if you exceed your contractually agreed period of sick leave.

    12. Triggrrrr on

      This makes it sound like they give them out all the time, I can confirm they refuse them all the time

    13. Special-Nebula299 on

      Isn’t it best to take people seriously if they say they are suicidal? 

      SSP is only about £500 a month so nobody is claiming it to be rich.

    14. EVERYTHINGGOESINCAPS on

      I’m not sure why it should be on doctors to protect business interests anyway.

      We’re not in the US, the healthcare system is for supporting people, not commercial interests.

    15. PatienceIsMore on

      BBC sliding further to the right to appease the Tories and Reform by sputing more new stories that are likely to appeal to their voters (i.e. the over 50’s).

    16. ThatBandicoot4769 on

      I worked in HR for years and we always used to talk about mental health and bad backs being the key to endless sick notes, because a GP essentially can’t say it’s not genuine. I really do feel for GPs on this. They’re being asked to assess fitness for work when they don’t know anything about the person’s job, other than the biased opinion of the individual. Plus you can imagine people getting aggressive if refused a sick note.

    17. No_Bit7786 on

      The main focus should be on trying to improve life so that people don’t feel the need to get signed off sick. MH is tricky becuase the GP basically has to take the patient’s word for it, there’s nothing for them to measure.

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