Ein Ehepaar aus Kerry, das ein heruntergekommenes Haus in ein Einfamilienhaus umwandeln wollte, wurde vom Planungssystem „zerstört“.
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/kerry/north-west-kerry-news/kerry-couple-who-wanted-to-convert-derelict-house-into-family-home-left-crushed-by-planning-system/a295147079.html
Von BielsasBucket
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Great more one off housing exactly what we need in this country.
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Pretty sympathetic to self builds or one offs but i dont see a problem with this decision?
The system does need an overhaul but we also need planning restrictions, can’t just have a mass of one off housing, the push should be to rural villages if you want something in the countryside
Again, how the fuck can a beighbour block you from renovating your own house. Extreme antisocial behaviour endorsed and enforced by the state
An „extension“ 4 x bigger than the original house, some craic.
Why does the story mention someone from Donegal can object when it was their neighbour ?
When my family and I left Ireland, the last thing my parents did to help sell up was already getting the established planning permissions for development on the land.
I remember being explicitly told not to tell anyone we were even planning on moving, or getting planning permission, in case someone took up a reason to find the application and get it shot down. Not sure why I was told that as a kid, but I guess my parents were being deathly cautious. My Dad even did most of the work with the drainage testing and so on, partly because he could do it for free, and because having a surveyor’s van outside could have been conspicuous.
This was in Kerry too, many years ago. there was an entirely abandoned village near us with derelicts and a lot of them remain empty today, the outskirts interspersed with McMansions… ‚*the scale and design of which would overwhelm and not integrate with the local character*‘ from the celtic tiger times.
The size of the extension aside, a lot of the objections sound like bollocks thrown up just to make it insurmountable. Someone didn’t want renovations there, so they objected, and the board worked within their means to make those objections legally palatable.
Generally there are different planning requirements depending on whether you’re extending an existing dwelling, or constructing an entirely new house.
This couple claims that they’re merely extending an existing cottage, but I just viewed the planning application & read the Inspector’s report which revealed that framing is a bit dishonest.
The existing cottage is only 50sqm, while the „extension“ is almost 200sqm. The cottage has also never had electricity or plumbing, so this infrastructure will need to be constructed also.
The cottage is also in a profound state of disrepair, and will likely need to have it’s foundations replaced in order to support the new roof.
For all these reasons I think it’s more than fair to judge this application as an entirely new house, not merely an extension.
People need houses. People are arguing over planning and how its needed/not needed. We’re in a housing crisis. Surely we can lax on restrictions for like 10 years and let folks get a leg up on houses like the above and then restrict again.
There’s a fair bit of difference between restoring a derelict house that was previously granted planning permission and had someone living in in relatively recently versus a house that was never granted planning permission, never had electricity or water and no-one has been living in for multiple decades.
Edit: The first planning permission laws in Ireland came into force on the 1st of October 1964 so over 60 years ago.
The whole country would have looked like this eventually if we didn’t put the brakes on one offs somewhat, although I still see them being built all over the place when driving through ireland
https://www.engineersireland.ie/Portals/0/EasyDNNNews/3715/19201080p4090EDNmaina-ajm.png
…they are relaxing rules around one-off housing? What the fuck?
Do you need to provide proof of ID when you object? I have heard of people giving someone else’s name when submitting an objection. No idea how true that is but I have heard people say it.
At the moment it feels that the mere presence of objection is enough to stop all manner of development.
I just want a system to places merit on objections that have it and ignores ones that don’t.
„Locals objected saying the cycle lane would impact traffic“
I dont think you should be allowed make an objection like that without evidence, because if you did, the evidence would show the impact would ultimately be less traffic
Pay wall so can’t read but I wonder what the issue is
I’m doing the same and planing was straight forward (like it’s a pain but my experience was the standard one)
Baring a prick objecting your not going have a problem with a restoration
Probably the worst time to chime in as an Irish/American citizen, but that wouldn’t be very fitting if I didn’t. When looking for properties near Glenbeigh and surrounds, we are met with “ yes the property is available, but is nearly all but sold”. Again , this may be a slight disdain for the foreigner that I am, but we truly are not the type to construct an eyesore. We are the opposite really, in that, we would like to purchase and bring a property up to speed , and improve it , and most importantly utilize and enjoy the lands and vistas. My ultimate point being; why is this so difficult!? My family there are well known,and know the real estate agents and suggestions for exchange rates and other lesser known angles were all discussed. Just getting anybody to have a conversation is agonizing. If anybody reads and responds, thanks, even if it amounts to some ball busting.