Die Selbstmordraten britischer Männer seien eine „nationale Katastrophe“, sagt Prinz William | Prinz William

It’s good that it’s been acknowledged, but just encouraging men to open up and calling for more role models is not enough. We need to understand the reasons why suicide is the leading cause of death for men under 50, what circumstances are driving men to do this, and what real changes can practically be made to mitigate this.

I mean, the council made me homeless when my Mum died. Didn’t offer to help me, in fact told me they wouldn’t. Perhaps a better care system in this country would make things more tolerable.

We need costs off living to go down drastically..
Inflation is low according to the news but prices haven’t come down..

The rich don’t feel anything because they are protected from inflation and cost of living by tax reliefs and off shore holdings etc etc.

Country has turned to a shit hole and so has the quality of life

I have an incredibly complex history and have been depressed with high anxiety and suicidal ideation since I was 21. All the GP does is direct you to several disjointed services because they don’t have the time or resources to properly figure it out holistically.

I’m not a doctor, all I know is there’s something very wrong with me and trying to figure it out alone is impossible. I’ve tried so many things, read so many books. I fear I’ll be part of this statistic if someone doesn’t give the intervention I’m literally begging for.

Hard to have male role models when men can’t talk about men’s issues in public without getting lambasted. Ironically women advocates for men are probably more effective in that they won’t attract as much of the usual flack for speaking out (although they will still be called a ‘pick me’ or not ‘a girls, girl’).

I can see how it’s a tempting solution to have male role models in people’s private lives though. Means no money needs spending and keeps the status quo undusturbed.

The UK is grim.

Living in Australia for the last few decades I’ve returned to an 8 year surgery waiting list.

You don’t get paid enough, everything is more expensive. And the weather is depressing. Rich people gutted the country and you are left in a system that isn’t fit for purpose.

The current system does not encourage growth and the numbers prove this.

I’m voting green not because it’s a left vs right issue but simply to stop the rich.

The UK needs to have a serious conversation about the upper house and the monarchy. Something needs to change.

I’m probably going to sound way too pessimistic here but the many issues affecting boys/men and the supposed answer always being “more male role models” in these articles is such a joke. Doesn’t seem like genuine concern and conveniently lacks any advocacy of monetary support from the state. It’s just mainstream buzzwords rather than help.

…so the solution, for helping vulnerable, low self esteem men with inferiority complexes, hardship, psychological health issues etc is to *check notes

Show them a “role model” who has it all together, succeeding at life and has no immediate similarities to their situation? Even if they have recovered from that position of suicidal ideation how is throwing a successful person at a struggling person helpful and not just further debilitating.

Donate to charity more then you’re pockets aren’t that shallow, especially when your dad profited off inheritance from a county.

Out of touch privileged nepo baby who hasn’t done an honest day’s work stating the obvious here

Most men feel completely powerless in our own lives. A life of quiet desperation. ‚Talking‘ doesn’t help us as much as it does women, we want to feel like we are powerful and have agency in our lives. This means good jobs, money, great women, great male friends. Very few of us have access to this now.

I have to be honest and out myself as a nerd, because my father walked out when I was only 3, so the only men I really had to look up to growing up were the “mentor” characters in films and TV shows. As an adult, friends make jokes about how my favourite characters always seem to be the older guys, but I don’t tell them why. They probably think I’m in the closet or something lol.

My primary school didn’t have a single male member of staff, and by the time I saw a male teacher in secondary school, the damage had really already been done.

1/4 of domestic abuse victims are men, yet look at Reddit adverts on the subject here.. all „her“.

Ask any bloke that’s had his kids taken away by some angry women, how good the system is going through the courts and how they simply roll over for any shit she says, without a shred of proof, and he has to justify his existence beyond all reasonable doubt.

Then see how the CMS decides to trap any man, for a fuck ton of money forever, and the state incentives behaviour from mothers to keep the kids away as they get paid / rewarded for doing so.

For those that don’t know, it’s 16% of your GROSS salary. Pay it direct or they take it out of your wages with a 20% fee for doing so.

If you lose your job, and you’re new salary elsewhere is between 1 and 24.99% less… The figure stays the same.

There are plenty of Parliament documents out there, from fathers who have killed themselves, thought about it, because of the abuse that comes with dealing with these systems.

Other than the practical issues people face, such as employment and housing, I really do think we need to further normalise discussing emotions and just how painful one’s inner experience might be. I volunteer on a well known hotline related to this subject, and the amount of people who apologise for taking up space, and generally don’t feel safe enough to express themselves is heartbreaking. For me, attunement is at the heart of every interaction I have with a caller, so that hopefully they experience enough comfort and safety to talk about the very real and difficult things that they’re struggling with.

I think it’s a matter of trust, or more specifically the vulnerability of trusting some other and the cost that may incur. If you view someone’s act of kindness toward you as transactional, someone taught you that, and it’s perhaps indicative that you have unresolved trauma.

When the root cause is emotional neglect, things are complicated, because without a particular event or events (ala abuse or physical neglect) for someone to point to, it’s incredibly difficult to realise that something was indeed missing, and how it may have affected them throughout their life.

Unfortunately, there’s no one thing that leads a soul to suicide. I do agree with the Prince that positive male role models AND talking about what troubles you, can help. Economic, social and genetic factors play into some of the reasons a person reaches this stage.

There is hope and resources for those in need of a lifeline…look for it before looking to exit this world.

my best mate killed himself just over 10 years ago. the reasons we have never fully been able to unpick but I do know he put a call into a doctor on the Friday for support and wasn’t called back until the Wednesday, two days after he’d passed away.

more resources / better funding and more talking about the hidden killer, bring it out into the open… it’s ok to be not ok

The dynamic between men and women is fucked.

I believe that is what actually drives men to suicide.

The death of love.

i have low testosterone
nhs refuses to treat it because it’s not quite low enough
it’s a living hell, i’m having to come to terms with the fact that my ability to function has been completely impaired by something that is highly treatable
i don’t need a male role model, i need medical care
i think men face these kinds of issues all of the time, where their wellbeing is just deemed unimportant