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  1. **In Brief:**

    * Even if third (and more) parties don’t win, they still shape parliaments, agendas, policies, laws, and political culture. The NDP, for instance, has been essential in building out the Canadian welfare state for decades, including health care (in its various iterations and conceptions) and the national pension scheme.
    * Most recently, the NDP helped secure guaranteed paid sick days for workers in federally regulated industries and delivered, at last, a federal anti-scab law.
    * During the global financial crisis, the NDP pushed the minority government of Stephen Harper to offer supports for workers and families affected by the crash.
    * A House of Commons made up of several parties tends toward a more robust and varied legislature that better captures the diversity, tensions, disagreements, and struggles of the country. Such  a Commons produces better outcomes.

  2. Until we see real election change Canadians will be forced into this 2 party system.

  3. TinglingLingerer on

    Hasn’t the NDP vote share rebounded after the election in recent polling? The Bloc isn’t going anywhere, either.

    Canada is far, far away from a 2 party system.

  4. MapleDesperado on

    I’d be happier with proportional representation, which would allow for more nuance instead of less.

  5. Electrical_Net_1537 on

    Funny thing about democracies, they have the right to vote as they wish. So, I say bring on as many political parties as we can get. More parties more opinions, better representation.

  6. It would be nice to see the NPD stop messing about and try and be relevant to a working class that has really been hit hard the last twenty years.

  7. Jolly-Yesterday-5160 on

    I’m pretty sure most Canadians agree, we are just waiting for the NDP to stop stepping on their own rakes and be a serious party.

  8. Aren’t there 3 strong parties in the house right now? Sure one of them is a regional party, but still.

    This is basically just lamenting that NDP voters flocked away from the party, but takes no accountability for the party doing it to themselves. They were in a position to sit as the opposition for 4 years and then have a strong shot at leading Canada, they didn’t take it and now don’t even have party status.

    Maybe they can come back, but I can’t see things changing for them in the near future.

    Maybe we will see something similar to the Bloq come out of Alberta before the NDP rebuilds?

  9. BigButtBeads on

    NDPs fault, doubling down on whacky identity politics and racism, instead of focusing on working class canadian citizens 

  10. UndergroundCreek on

    It’s our effing media. There’s not a single media service friendly and supportive of the NDP. Except for reddit – a bit.

  11. Puzzleheaded_Fee_419 on

    There’s still the bloc and Elizabeth May to keep things interesting

  12. The--Majestic--Goose on

    If you value democracy, you should support proportional representation. If you want politicians to be accountable at election time, you should oppose an electoral system that encourages strategic voting. We all deserve a vote that counts equally. Electoral reform is by far the most under discussed issue in Canadian politics.

  13. ProofByVerbosity on

    Canadian’s can’t be polarized on this issue, can they? The more party options and the stronger and healthier those parties are the better for democracy.

    One of the primary concerns I’ve heard for years and have had myself is not enough good options out there, or in some elections there’s no good option I like out there.

  14. Well until Canada moves beyond the joke of a system that is First past the post, it’ll always end up a two party system.

  15. PostMatureBaby on

    Imagine simping for people who take your money and actively work against you to keep the rich rich.

  16. givemeastocktip on

    We should have more parties which will force coalition governments that can’t be untouchable

  17. Unfair-Leave-5053 on

    If only someone ran on electoral reform and followed through with it…..

  18. goebelwarming on

    I think parties like green and ndp to focus on more reginal politics rather than the whole country. Its worked out pretty well for the bloc. Thats where a third party could be more effective.

  19. Constant_Mood_7332 on

    ppl dont understand the justin trudeau legacy failure that will haunt all of us : not scrapping first past the post.

    in my opinion, first past the post is killing democracy. a conservative in downtown toronto doesnt have a real vote. a liberal in rural alberta doesnt have a real vote.

    i dont know why pierre doesnt bring up the fact that , under any other system, hes our prime minister (not that i want that but its facts).

  20. OddResearcher1081 on

    The reason I recently saved about $2000 on a crown was because of the NDP.

    I joined the party and will be voting for Lewis in March.

  21. It has always been de-facto two party system. And both wings are right. So, might as well merge Liberals and Conservatives into a Big Money and Property party of Canada. And fuck the rest of the people.

  22. I’ve been excited by politics 3 times.

    – One was Jack Layton during the debates. He felt like your next door neighbor you could crack a beer with, coached your kid’s softball team, but had a fire in him when he spoke up for the community.

    – Second was the possibility of an NDP majority under Mulcair when they had tons of momentum. While I’m not a fan of his and think he dropped the ball, there was some novelty in NOT having a Liberal or Conservative party in power for once and what that may mean.

    – Third, I’ll get some heat for this, but Trudeau talking about electoral reform and marijuana legalization. The prospects were exciting, too bad he lied about reform, among other things.

  23. Jeez if only one of these leaders had run on ending FPTP and gotten a majority, maybe we could have absolutely kicked this bullshit shadow of what we call democracy to the curb and actually had proportional representation of the people.

  24. edging? The federal NDP committed Seppuku last year in order to prevent the conservatives from winning… just like the Wild Rose party did in Alberta. We’re already there.

  25. This is why we needed Trudeau to bring in electoral reform. I guess constitutional changes are just too hard to achieve.

  26. We need more than two parties AND voting reform.

    The latter is critical, because under FTPT having more than two parties can skew the results in a way that doesn’t reflect voter intentions.

    As it stands, Conservative parties have an unfair advantage in many places in Canada due to vote splitting. We need a system where you can vote for who you really want without having to worry about the potential of it helping the party you align with the least. Many PR systems accomplish this.

  27. I mean how did the NDP lose official party status but Elizabeth May is still holding on with the Green Party?

  28. I am personally done with big tent parties. I dont think I’ll ever vote for the major 2 again.

  29. I don’t know, it seems that Eastern Conservatives have no place in the federal party. Tim Houston and Doug Ford are dirty words in Alberta. They have what it takes to win in the east but they’re being ignored or even attacked.

    If one of them ended up in leadership I could see the Alberta folk freaking out. If PP loses another election you’ll have to worry about separatists gaining strength. I’m getting PC/Alliance/Reform vibes. Harper was able to keep them all together but I don’t see anyone in the party now that can do the same.

  30. DukeandKate on

    Nonsense. Just because the last election coalesced around two leaders doesn’t mean those who voted strategically will continue to do so. In fact there is evidence that the bloc will do well next time and challenges with labour may strengthen the NDP.

  31. modsuperstar on

    Edging? We’ve been living it all of our lives. Our multi-party system is just 3 beavers in a trench coat masquerading as choice.

  32. It didnt help when the NDP joined forces with the Liberals. They killed their own party. Hopefully the Green Party will take their place.

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