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    Der niederländische Gesetzgeber genehmigt eine Steuer von 36 % auf nicht realisierte Krypto-, Aktien- und Anleihegewinne

    https://www.imidaily.com/europe/dutch-lawmakers-approve-a-36-tax-on-unrealized-crypto-stock-and-bond-gains/

    Von RobertVandenberg

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    1. Logical_Wheel_1420 on

      >The new Box 3 system replaces the old tax-free capital threshold (€57,684 in 2025) with a tax-free annual return of €1,800.

      is the limit still the same? you get taxed on investments you haven’t sold if it’s over €57,684 in a year?

      that’s insane if that’s actually the limit. imagine getting taxed because a christmas rally put you over and then the market dumped in january. why would you ever invest?

    2. freezing_banshee on

      Taxes on ANY unrealized gains are theft. They’re taking money from you that you don’t actually have.

    7. AckerHerron on

      “Why do European companies struggle to raise capital compared to the US?”

      Taxing unrealised gains is absolute insanity.

    8. AckerHerron on

      I buy $500,000 worth of Stock. A misleading news article comes out which causes its worth to increase to $600,000. A day later the company comes out and says the article is erroneous. The stock returns to its original value.

      I now owe $36,000 to the government.

    9. Confident_Dragon on

      What. The. Actual. Fuck. 36%?! On *unrealized* gains?

      Edit: removed wrong context.

    10. NiknameOne on

      Time to pack your bags and leave the Netherlands. What a horrible idea. The amount of capital flight will be for the history books if this passes.

    12. LeadingPool5263 on

      We have this in Ireland, Deemed Disposal, but only forced pay in year 7. I like the idea of a tax free amount in each year, we don’t have that in Ireland.
      I agree with the underlying idea though, it is generally to catch wealthy borrowing off assets for income etc and paying no tax, eg Elon Musk.

    13. atchijov on

      These kind of taxes should only be applied to people who already have too much money… at the very least threshold should be €100M – €500M

    14. Vivaciousseaturtle on

      This is basically the same thing England tried to do with the inheritance tax stuff for farmers with land.

    15. Biteityouskum on

      Good for them stocks should be taxed or the person can’t borrow shit against them.

    17. Leuk60229 on

      Did anyone actually research what’s about to be changed? The Netherlands has had a wealth tax since 1892 and the current system has been in place since 2001

      The Netherlands already had a tax on wealth including unrealized gains that was a % over a fixed assumed 4% growth in the system that was in effect from 2001. That means that investments over a certain amount as well as wealth in the bank were assumed to grow by 4% and you were taxed over that amount. A judge ruled this to be an illegal structure because even if your growth was less than 4% people were getting taxed on fictitious growth they did not actually experience.

      From 2023 until 2027 a temporary system is in place that puts a roughly 1.2% assumed growth on wealth in banks and 6% on investments and if your growth is actually less than that you can get a tax deductible on the next year.

      In 2028 this system is going to move to be completely fixed on your actual experienced growth. Yes this means if you experienced more than the assumed 6% growth you are paying more than in the previous system, but only because previously the government was wrongly guestimating you were experiencing less growth. For most people who are simple savers at banks or conservative investors this probably ends up with them paying less taxes overall because they do not experience 6% growth.

      Start ups and real estate both have exemptions btw.

      The law has also only passed in the Second Chamber, and there have already been parties that want changes to be made before 2028.

      Specifically the 36% number is just that part of what has been passed is that the number is definitly going to be 36% of your experienced growth, as it has been since 2024 (increased from 32% in 2023)

      Please do more than reading headlines

    18. comments83820 on

      This seems like a really bad idea and I find it hard to believe a liberal Dutch government will allow it to become law.

    19. Ok_Win_2906 on

      lol… best of luck to a Dutch company ever competing with an American one with this. How will they ever raise money ?

    28. Diligent_Lobster6595 on

      Doesn’t this make long-term investments a upper-class feature ?
      If working-class people are basically forced to sell out of fear of the market, while the upper-class always are able to pay off the tax no worries.

      Who exactly is it that drives these politics forward in the Netherlands ?

    29. Typical-Shoe770 on

      Let’s admit you are in the top percent of society with this kind of investment

      If you invest in stocks of over 58,000 euros, you can share 36% of the capital gains above those 58,000 euros…

      Also, if you incur a loss, you can subtract the gain from the taxes in the upcoming years

    30. Typical-Shoe770 on

      THE NETHERLANDS HAS BEEN TAXING UNREALIZED GAINS FOR MANY YEARS
      and its economy is more than fine compared to many countries.. stop making catastrophy scenarios

      Only the calculation of how this tax is calculated is changed. In particular, the government used to assum, say, stocks grow 6% this year. So pay 36% of those 6% unrealized gains. Now, the rules changed that you will pay 36% of the actual unrealized gains.

    32. Fabian_Riven on

      Dutch guy here. In one week our new government decided we have to work to 70+ years and this tax system. They have no clue what they are doing. It’s sickening just to close a 2 million gap…

    33. Aware-Chipmunk4344 on

      Let’s see if the experiment will work out, and can be emulated by other countries.

    36. blondydog on

      Great news for other European countries who will now see wealthy Dutch move there.

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