Ich habe gefunden dieser Artikel über die negativen Erfahrungen von Ausländern, die versuchen, in Norwegen einen Job zu finden.
Ich bin seit letztem Juni in Norwegen, arbeite aber remote mit einem nicht norwegischen Unternehmen.
Ich frage mich, ob die in diesem Artikel geschilderten Erfahrungen üblich sind und ob die Probleme eher struktureller Natur sind.
Gibt es Daten, die mehr Kontext bieten?
Is there discrimination for foreigners in the Norwegian labour market?
byu/Hasampouli inNorway
Von Hasampouli
11 Kommentare
In short: Yes, there is.
There’s many instances of cases where a person with a foreign-sounding name, especially middle eastern/African, will pretty much never hear back from companies until and unless they get/use a more western or european name.
It’s tragic, to be honest, and employers miss out on skilled people because of it.
Yes. This is also largely the case everywhere, consciously or subconsciously.
IME the problems are related to language. Norwegian isn’t a commonly used language. But it is needed in most work places, also in the service sector. You can’t function without it, even as a lowly paid waiter.
My wife runs a restaurant and has a lot of applications from people who don’t speak it well enough. Everyone here speaks English, so maybe this problem is easy to ignore.
The Reddit answer is no of course not we hold hands and sing together and our system loves foreigners.
The real answer is yes.
Yes.
I dont know about data, but as a foreigner who would like to come and contribute to Norway, I understand why locals would be prioritized.
Regardless of skill levels and fit (which could be massive arguments in a completely objective world) we have to understand that Norway, and any other country for that matter, will prioritize it’s people. The same way majority of people would prioritize their family over strangers, even though family could be in the wrong.
Norwegians need jobs too, leaders have to keep people (or the majority) as ‚happy’as possible to ensure votes.
If everything would be fair and equal, would we even have the concept of countries anymore? Now if that would be a good/bad thing sounds like an interesting debate
Most Norwegian redditors doesnt seem to participate in the job sector.
Its harder for foreigners to get jobs in general, but the effect is not so large. Norway has lack of labor, and most foreigners -are- employed.
Its VERY difficult for unskilled labor to find jobs though. Even worse for Norwegians I assume, as the employer plans to exploit the workers.
There’s a mismatch between the expectations and the reality, combined with a lack of entry-level positions in certain industries.
As an employer I get a lot of applications from people all over the world, but mostly europeans. They’re quite often mass-produced and tells little of how the person will be of value to my company.
In addition, foreigners (not to be confused with immigrants living and working here, or people born here of immigrants) does neither have the sufficient knowledge of our society to successfully work within several domains , nor the language skills to work effectively in teams. Some people (anglos in particular) expect to be able to speak English at work, which in most cases is a No-go.
Given the surplus of potential recruits in some areas, foreigners applying from abroad more or less always go in the bottom of the pile of resumes.
Paywall for article.
Its harder for foreigners to get jobs anywhere.
I would not take the butthurt of people who didnt get a response for their first 20 job applications as evidence of anything though.
Job market is crazy though
Oh god yes. I think there are broad cultural reasons for this, that I won’t get into.
But, I think a significant part in this, is that it is very hard to fire people in Norway. So, in the end, if you are running a business, you are going to be very cautious about hiring people at all, let alone foreigners. Because if someone isn’t working out, then it could take years of work, or invite a lot of legal issues, to end employment with someone. So, the places that end up hiring foreigners, are perhaps really desperate for people, and also perhaps end up not being a good working experience for foreigners either, so they end up leaving Norway even.
I love Norway and I am happy to live and work here. I think it is a beautiful country that has its own issues. The job market is one of them.
It took me almost 10 years and hundreds of applications from abroad to get a job in my professional field, I could have probably found a job faster if I moved here before but I was living fine in my homecountry so I choose to play the long game learning the language beforehand and sending applications every once in a while until I literally got lucky.
I have been now living in Norway for more than five years. I would like to say I got promotions and career advancements, but that is not the case. Norwegian-born people got ahead of me instead. I am happy anyways, because in Norway I can have a lifestyle I thrive in.
For the immigrants I personally know (including the famous self defined ‚expats‘, but not refugees) I would draw a major line in between two categories: the ones that came here already as very experienced workers with lots of certifications and papers, and the one that did not.
It is a game of demand and offer, to get the better job usually means that there is really no norwegian candidate available. In some cases I personally saw, a nepotism approach is also adopted, but usually for less-vital positions, as HR or marketing.
Norway has basically a village mentality, its the person that fits the job, it is not the job that requires the perfect person. And oftentimes this person is Norwegian-born.
This said, I think Norway has many other positives and I am happy to pay my taxes here.