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    „Wir hörten den Ruf, wir kamen angerannt“: Trumps Äußerungen zur NATO-Truppe haben alliierte Veteranen erschüttert


    „Wir hörten den Ruf, wir kamen angerannt“: Trumps Äußerungen zur NATO-Truppe haben alliierte Veteranen erschüttert

    https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/trump-nato-afghanistan-veterans-frontline-rcna256084

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    1. nbcnews on

      Trump’s assertions about NATO forces not coming to the United States’ defense are incorrect: More than 1,000 [NATO troops](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/greenland/think-europe-can-defend-us-help-good-luck-says-nato-chief-rcna256083) from over 25 countries, including 457 British service personnel, died in Afghanistan. Double that number were seriously wounded. Around 2,400 U.S. service members died in the conflict between 2001 and 2021.

      The war, launched [after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks](https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/children-of-brave-9-11-first-responders-continue-legacy-of-service-247415877772) on the U.S., remains the only time that the alliance’s collective defense clause, known as Article 5, has been invoked.

    2. Bullboah on

      Multiple things are true here at once imo.

      -A few NATO countries (especially the UK and Denmark) had significant operational roles in GWOT, and incurred high casualties relative to their size.

      -Most coalition countries sent smaller detachments and were not doing much from an operational perspective – it was more symbolic support.

      -Even those countries still lost soldiers KIA, because of IEDs and attacks on bases.

      -Trump’s comments are incredibly stupid diplomatically, and obviously extremely offensive to other NATO countries especially those like the UK and Denmark.

      -Speaking broadly there are definitely NATO members who have chosen to free-ride and don’t contribute much to the alliance, but there are also great consistent partners. The countries facing the worst of Trump’s aggression have been some of the best partners (like Denmark).

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