Bei Rittenhouse lagen alle falsch

Submission Statement: It’s relevant because all too often we seem to fall into this trap of viewing the deeper conspiracies as left vs right. This image serves as further evidence that even the poster children of „far right movements“ will gladly support their fellow Americans in defense of the constitution. The division is a lie and the conspiracy we currently live under is no longer political.

Did he actually condemn both shootings?

I don’t identify as left or right, but my values probably align more left. That said, I supported Rittenhouse’s acquittal the entire time. Self defense is self defense and constitutional rights are constitutional rights. Adding politics to these things is ridiculous. It was a clear case of self defense.

But he never struck me as a political guy until after the trial. And even then, he’s been more of an advocate for gun ownership than an advocate for republicans. I’m not surprised in the slightest by his tweet.

By the way, if you think federal agents SHOULD be allowed to murder law abiding citizens for no reason, you are completely bat shit insane. I don’t care about your politics. If you think what happened to Pretti was reasonable, you are the scum of this world in my opinion.

Who was wrong about him?

I’d really try to make sure I didn’t end up in some kinda scuffle with police if I decided to carry a gun around though. The whole fucking scene was chaotic. People screaming, honking horns, blowing whistles. These ICE folks are just humans and doesn’t appear like they are really trained for this sort of thing. Not sure how you could be anyway. I get that people feel like theya re doing the right thing by doing all of this, but its a dangerous thing to do. Most cops aren’t going to risk their lives or even major injury trying to make sure they always do the right thing. Sure seems like there could be a better plan of action here, but I don’t know what it is. There is also the fact that a candidate ran on doing this and won and now he’s doing it. And the fact that this really isn’t new. Obama was doing it, and several people died then too. The media loved him though so it wasn’t even talked about.

Nope I was spot on. A right wing extremist that traveled for purposes of civil unrest, and was armed upon arrival as promised.

This is 1:1 what terrorists do by the way

Hate seeing the hypocrisy from both sides comparing these two cases. As a 2A supporter, I am consistent and think that both cases were legal and they both had a right to carry.

Last time he spoke out against MAGA they had him backtracking and apologizing very quickly. I’ll give him credit though, peer pressure aside, he is consistent.

Of course.
Every single one of them are hypocrites.
One way or another.

He was completely justified in defending himself EVEN IF he „brought a high powered rifle to a protest to look for trouble.“

We weren’t wrong about him. He just happened to be correct this 1 time.

As a non us citizen, rittenhouse wasnt demonstrating he was defending a property, in the code of law ismt that diffrent?

Being principled is very rare these days. Don’t agree with what he did but fair play to him for standing his ground when everyone else in that region politically is licking the boot

While I find his arguments for self defence were weak, there’s enough similarities between the cases that I think his is pertinent to bring up with how the Republicans are treating Pretti.

– Rittenhouse had to travel to a different state (admittedly not actually far), Pretti was „home“.
– Rittenhouse had an „illegal firearm“ (charge actually dismissed because it didn’t meet criteria) that was bought for him by a friend, Pretti was a legal gun owner with a concealed carry permit.
– Rittenhouse was brandishing or holding his firearm (depends on how you want to interpret it), Pretti had his concealed and it was only discovered during his detainment
– Rittenhouse intended to defend a cardealership he had limited connection to (so intended to use his firearm, arguably), there’s no indication Pretti intended to do anything with his firearm except have it on him (unless having a firearm on you automatically means you intend to use it?).
– Rittenhouse used his firearm to defend himself when someone grabbed his barrel (fair, though lethal force appears extreme) then shot another who saw him shooting and tried to disarm/attack him (debatable, but fair) before shooting another person responding to the previous two killings (two „good guys“ with guns apparently means you can legally have a shootout in the street). Pretti did… none of that. Didn’t even touch his firearm.
– Rittenhouse surrendered quickly to police and wasn’t forceably detained from what I recall, Pretti was dogpiled before being executed.

All in all, Rittenhouse had a „worse“ set of circumstances (which is why the left dont like him) and was acquitted. So it makes absolute sense that he’s supporting Pretti’s rights here. It could very easily have happened to him after all.

It would be really interesting to see how the Right would be treating Pretti if Rittenhouse was executed too. The left would likely be making the same comments but would be accepting the  Rittenhouse one due to the worse set of circumstances. 

He’s right. Carry anywhere that isn’t federal..not legally allowed in fed buildings.