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    Estland warnt davor, dass russische Veteranen Europa nach dem Ukraine-Krieg überschwemmen könnten, und drängt auf EU-Einreiseverbot


    Estland warnt davor, dass russische Veteranen Europa nach dem Ukraine-Krieg überschwemmen könnten, und drängt auf EU-Einreiseverbot

    https://kyivindependent.com/estonia-pushes-eu-wide-entry-ban-for-russian-ex-soldiers-who-fought-in-ukraine/

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    1. RandomStuffGenerator on

      Poor, uneducated, traumatized people, many of whom have killed, some even possibly are war criminals. Sendings them over would be a double win for Russia.

    2. Protato900 on

      The EU has been poorly handling Russia’s hybrid warfare strategies – failing to impose an entry ban would just be allowing Russia to import thousands of saboteurs and agitators into the EU to disrupt unity and create tension.

    4. Odd-Professor-5309 on

      There should be no entry into Europe for Russian citizens or any person suspected of participating in Russia’s was of terror.

      This should be happening now.

    5. 7thAndGreenhill on

      This happened after the fall of the USSR too. The Russians who fled to the west were not the poor. It was the people with money.

    7. szornyu on

      Not a real issue, majority will die on the front, those returning sometimes in the future will have almost 0 grit in doing significant harm to EU. EU might grow some ball until then, I hope.
      Furthermore, if this would emerge, would also generate new jobs for rhise willing to keep the EU clean from the aforementioned elements. Win-win, me thinks 😁

    8. miksa668 on

      They should absolutely be banned from the EU.

      Perhaps they could be encouraged to go to their number one supporting country, the US, instead. 

    11. Significant_Bag_7485 on

      This is a no brainer. If they don’t already have plans for an end of the conflict then they are not doing their jobs.

    12. TheHeartyMonk on

      All non-diplomatic Russian citizens should be barred entry to the UK and EU. It’s pretty simple really.

    13. Trebalor on

      Imaging Europe having to pay the health care for tens of thousands of crippled and hostile KGB-agents.

    14. roboczar on

      Something something collective punishment, conscription and the moral weight of participation, proportionality, etc.

      the ethical red flag is not “Estonia wants to be safe,” it’s the kind of tool they’re choosing. A permanent, status-based ban treats “served in a war” like a moral stain instead of asking what any given person actually did… That starts to look less like justice and more like the state finding a politically convenient category of forever-outsiders.

      It expands border and surveillance power, reinforces a simple “clean vs contaminated” story, and lets leaders posture as principled without doing the hard work of evidence, due process, and real war-crimes accountability. This is one of those things where it’s obvious WHY it’s Estonia doing the posturing, but it’s going to need clearer heads when thinking about putting this into practice. Estonia isn’t exactly a neutral party here, for legitimate reasons.

      If you think rights attach to individuals, not tribes, then “lifetime exclusion because you wore the uniform” is basically collective punishment with nicer branding. And once a security exception like that gets normalized, it almost never stays limited to the original target.

      Edit (context + what a better version looks like): Estonia’s pitch here is basically “served in Ukraine, no entry,” pushed as a broad, long-term, status-based ban. My issue is that it treats “veteran” like a moral stain and replaces individual culpability with a category label. A rights-respecting approach would be more like: punish conduct, not status. Target people credibly tied to war crimes, sabotage, or covert state ops, with clear criteria, real appeals, and periodic review. Make space for deserters and coerced conscripts. Harden infrastructure and prosecute networks, instead of expanding a permanent “forever-outsider” bucket at the border.

    15. Only_Tennis5994 on

      And haven’t Israeli veterans been flooding Europe and SE Asia as well? Why is that not talk about?

    17. stunning_gec on

      A stable Russia is more important for Europe than Ukraine keeping the Donbas I think. they couldn’t handle older refugees

    18. vivi_le_serpent on

      Russian veterans ? Bold of you to assume any Russian soldier will survive the war

    19. Pack_That on

      Welcome those that want to contribute. Ban international travel for billionaires,and pariah politicians. Trump, and his cadre should not be allowed to travel out of the US.

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