Eby von BC sagt, es sei „ganz klar“, dass Carney und Smith von Alberta nach dem Treffen die Pipeline vorantreiben.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7065730

32 Kommentare

  1. Inevitable_Fuel7244 on

    I wish there was some sort of federal trade corridor across the country. Interprovincial waters, so to speak, with federal ports on either end where landlocked provinces can get goods to the coast without needing to ask other provinces permission. Especially when it comes to matters of national strategic importance.

    It’s like if your house was in the middle of your street and you had to ask your neighbours permission every time you wanted to exit your house.

    I’m not a Danielle Smith fan but I definitely feel for Alberta and prairie provinces that are completely beholden to the whims of provinces east and west.

    All it takes is literally one person, in this case a premiere, to kibosh a mega project.

    Edit: To be fair I guess the fed does have the power to force major projects through provinces, which I seem to forget. Still though, some increased trade autonomy for landlocked provinces seems like it would be fair.

  2. flatulentbaboon on

    Why are Eby’s plans for BC if Alberta does separate? BC essentially becomes an exclave because the only other direct routes to RoC go through the NWT. The numbers for separation may not be there yet, but it’s not a trivial amount either and the anger and frustration in many Albertans is real, even among the ones that don’t want to separate.

  3. bumtrainer69 on

    Canada is a natural resource superpower, and we need to start acting like it.

    We are not saving the planet by not producing. The demand is there either way.

    For every bit of raw material not produced by Canada, its harvested or produced by another country. Likely with less environmental laws (if any), higher emissions, less workers safety, less workers comphensation & rights.

    Then let’s keep in mind what some of these countries are using that money from natural resources to fund… its not always friendly to Canada.

  4. My criticism of pipelines is that it’s often a privatize the profits scenario and we’re supposed to be thankful for the 2 cents on the dollar in royalties and 200 constructions jobs that turn into 10 jobs when it’s complete.

    Expected ownership of this pipeline is up to 50% aboriginal, 50% private. Your everyday Canadian isn’t exactly getting enriched by it.

    I’d actually like to see us invest in ourselves for once, maybe the Canadian Pension Plan funding some of the project and taking % of the return. Then we can make a better argument for „National interest.“

  5. MommersHeart on

    This is a national sovereignty issue.

    Right now our oil and gas sector is almost entirely tied to the US.

  6. BC takes the hit when it goes wrong, and it devastates the BC economy. But if its business as usual then Oilberta takes all the profit.

    Oilberta is maxxed on its credit rating, when this goes sideways, they can’t afford to recompense BC.

    Pipelines are *very* fragile, very difficult to protect for every meter of their length. There’s a *lot* of people who are *very* concerned about this. The threat of swingeing penalties won’t matter if people are defending something existential.

    If you disenfranchise the people…good luck with that. You’ve got a lot of pipeline that needs to be secured, that don’t come cheap. Just saying is all.

  7. Just one more pipeline okay bro. Just one more and we’ll have this whole energy thing solved. You want us to be unified right bro…

  8. Prior-Instance6764 on

    The common thing I see on these threads and already saw a comment here was around, in the event of a spill it being BC who bears the cleanup costs.

    As someone who works in the industry, and has unfortunately had to respond to spills. It’s the sole responsibility of the polluter to pay for the costs of containment, recovery and reclamation. That is mandated by the pipeline safety act and CER. And if you want to get specific, the company actually pays a portion of it. The rest is paid by insurance.

    So, yes, a spill could have effects on the fishing industry, I’m not disputing that. But the costs of clean up are paid by the offending operator.

  9. four-seasonz on

    At 4.8 million barrels a day, on average, is sold at a discount of $13-$15 a barrel.

    At USD 62,400,000 to 72,000,000 a day.

    At 1:1.35 USD:CAD that translates to CAD

    $84,482,860 to $97,480,223 a day,

    that Canadian energy and thus govts at all levels are at a loss for. Never mind that it’s whole heartedly in the same basket.

    Annually we are at a LOSS of

    $35.58BILLION.

    At that kind of loss, who are these obstructionist going to convince?

    Money talks. Abd a pipeline WILL be built. Noise aside.

  10. Commercial_Guitar_19 on

    Someone should show him a map, maybe he would realize there is world outside the lower mainland

  11. What are with all these comments acting like it’s not totally reasonable for VC to want a cut if a pipeline happens?

  12. I’m a very liberal voter. I strongly believe we need to get our energy to other markets. We need to approve pipelines. We also need to drop all interprovincial trade barriers.

  13. UpperLowerCanadian on

    “These crazies are trying to make money for Canada I can’t imagine any benefit to that” 

  14. Wind_Best_1440 on

    Carney and Smith need to stop beating around the bush and just go. „Okay, let it go through, you’ll get X amount of revenue going through BC, similar to our other pipelines.“

    Get this done, so we can all stop pretending.

  15. CipherWeaver on

    Me reading the comments and wondering why everyone is pro pipeline: oh shit, I forgot I was in /r/Canada 

    Personally I live in BC and I don’t see why public dollars should continue to support a dying industry that kills the planet. 

  16. Puzzled_Worth_4287 on

    🇨🇦 As they should. Respect indigenous and the environment but if you don’t get off your asses and build the pipelines there’s not going to be a Canada and trump ain’t gonna give a shit about indigenous rights or the environment.

  17. I’m conflicted. There’s got to be a right way to do it, but when will they ever have enough pipelines? They just got one. We can’t do more forever.

    At this point I’d rather see the value-add that refineries bring, not exporting the raw materials

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