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  1. As Blackadder put it, Germany’s colonial empire existed only for a couple of decades and basically consisted of little more than a sausage factory near Tanganika. Not much to be proud of there I imagine.

    Belgium though 💀

  2. Choice_Sandwich2182 on

    As a Dutchie, I have to say I am appalled but not really surprised at our high percentage, especially considering the year it was asked(2019)

    My generation got a highly sanitized version of our colonial dutch history. For a long time I thought we were a relatively reasonable empire compared to some other European contemporaries.

    Then I started reading. Oh boy. According to P. Hagen our colonial wars of conquest cost the lives of 4 million Indonesians in the East Indies, not even counting the millions lost due to the cultivation system, slavery and forced labor.

    We were basically no better than Leopold II. Yes we even did the whippings and cutting of limbs. Until the 1930s mind you.

    „Luckily“ we don’t often get shit internationally for our past because people like us a lot better than say French or Belgians apparently(the Japan effect I suppose).

    Nowadays people here in the Netherlands know more about the past and that our whole „Politional actions“ was a bit of a euphemisms, but few people know about the severed hands and breasts and fingers etc. Even now its pretty sanized. In fact even Indonesians I met dont know the gory details of the Coolie Ordinances….

  3. Brisbanebill on

    I laughed a lot when I saw Portugal was not included. Angola and Mozambique?

  4. As a Brit living in Spain, this is completely at odds with my perception of people’s opinions about their countries‘ empires. Spain basically has a national holiday about their empire and the right wing talk about it much more than the Conservatives do in the UK.

  5. So half the dutch are assholes?

    edit: I’m afraid this comment was quite misunderstood. I simply don’t believe the map is accurate, and the question was supposed to reflect that belief via a ridiculous question. I’m not a native English speaker, so I probably fucked it up.

  6. Well, dies Germany’d also include theirb „other“ colonial project east?

  7. None of them should be proud, but it’s baffling that Belgians are THAT much so. Do they simply not know, or not care, what King Leopold II did?

  8. Embarrassed-Split644 on

    How many hundreds of millions speak Portuguese worldwide? This is funny

  9. Deep_Contribution552 on

    Brits are like “It was rather morally dubious, but we *did* excel at the whole ‘colonialism’ bit”

  10. Wrack-Chore on

    Why is Russia never included in the conversation about colonialism? Just because the land is contiguous with its core territory?

  11. The Dutch are relatively proud of their colonial history??? Weren’t they responsible for apartheid South Africa, or is there just a giant blind spot towards that?

    Same for the Brits. I’m sure they’re proud that they’ve projected their language and culture around the world, but the list of ills they’ve committed is unmatched.

  12. luiz_marques on

    The dutch are proud simply because they know little or almost nothing about their colonial history. Look into what they did during the occupations in northeastern Brazil against Luso-Brazilian Catholics, especially regarding the massacres of Cunhaú and Uruaçu carried out by calvinists in the service of the Dutch West India Company. And that’s without even mentioning Indonesia…

  13. They aren’t proud of it, but I bet they also aren’t complaining about it either.

  14. Lowkey ima drop it as a Belgian. Dutch people really need to be taught more about their colonial past. Some things they write about their history are shocking at times. Like the fact gekoloniseerd is used as a funny meme says enough.

  15. Dutchman here: There are a lot of far-right people in the Netherlands proud of the atrocities we committed and it’s fucking sickening.

  16. Mind you, in my village in the Netherlands there is a statue that commemorates the Resistance in WW II and AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE SAME PLAQUE the „fallen of the Politionele Acties“, which was a Dutch army force sent to Indonesia to slaughter the locals because they wanted independence.

  17. Young_Lochinvar on

    Missing Denmark and Russia (and Latvia, Malta and Sweden to get specific).

  18. Sick_and_destroyed on

    French are rather proud of their colonial past, but now it’s seen as nationalist to show it so people prefer to hide it.

  19. Cultural-Ad-8796 on

    Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Russia and Latvia are not included for unknown reasons.

  20. SignatureDefiant432 on

    I have sympathy for how the EU is getting treated by the US now. But once in a while I see maps/stats like this and realise how many people there that still cling onto a colonial past, and for a minute I question my sympathies.

    It should be zero throughout the whole map.

  21. The difference between the Netherlands and Belgium is startling. Post WW2 immigrants will no doubt be anti colonialism throughtout Europe

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