>She also said that data taken from people not on a watchlist “is deleted a fraction of a second after it is created, precisely because the MPS has no interest in that data”.
Yeah I don’t believe this for a second, the government is notorious for poor data protection.
kester76a on
It should be, central London should be a policed state as it’s own entity with mandatory ID check points and vistor passes. It seems daft to put so much crucial infrastructure in one point and not protect it.
Mammoth_Payment_6101 on
Doesn’t really matter for the criminals who walk around London with their faces covered, just a way to track everyone else.
AmbiiX on
Its a great trial space for their plan for intrusive surveillance across the whole of the UK. The whole country will become this way eventually if we let this continue and we’ll have our own version of the CCP system.
SableSnail on
I don’t understand the issue – you have no right to privacy in a public space so does it really make much difference if it’s a human police officer looking out for bad guys or a computer doing the same?
That said, I doubt this will help that much unless the laws are changed so repeat offenders can’t just keep on offending.
shak_0508 on
If this actually helps catch more criminals in a meaningful way, then yeah, I guess it can be seen as a good thing in theory.
That said, I really don’t like how this pairs with all the online safety / ID verification stuff. People are already getting punished over things they say online, and if more sites start requiring ID because of the OSA, it starts feeling sketchy. Add facial recognition into the mix and it’s a pretty obvious slippery slope if you say something the government doesn’t like.
NomadGeoPol on
The hard right will probably thinking burqas aint so bad after all soon.
Skeet_fighter on
It really would be nice if there were any politicians that gave even the slightest shit about personal privacy and rights.
I’ve written to my MP about this kind of stuff numerous times and just get the usual „we need to strike a balance between personal freedoms and security“ response.
Strange how the balance seems to have somebody from the govt with their thumb on it on the side of „security“ 99% of the time, isn’t it.
Jimmy_h4t99 on
Then you going to ban hoods, scarves ,masks, burkas?
GlasgowTrafficCone on
Oh how lovely. Bet it will make you feel really safe and not as if people are spying on you
cooky561 on
Remind me of how we’re a „free“ country again?
If you can’t go outside without it being recorded, documented, and potentially eventually requiring permits (Oxford already has this planned drivers) you don’t live in a free society, this stuff needs to end, immediately.
And normal people want to stop you from being able to mask up and avoid scanning like this.
Redcoat-Mic on
I seem to recall the constant memes of „social credit score -1000“ memes when China did this, doesn’t seem to be much outrage now we’re doing it.
jaceinthebox on
Guess next time I go to London I will have to wear a COVID mask, a hat and eye wear
phangtom on
UK: China is a global threat to democracy because of its authoritarianism and censorship.
Also UK: We need mass surveillance, mandatory ID verification to access the internet, ban on social media for those under 16 to stop them accessing news not approved by the government/the owners of MSM and ban on VPNs so we can monitor your internet activity to erm… protect the children. Yes, if you’re against any of these policies, you’re on the side of pedophiles.
NederFinsUK on
I don’t understand why people are fine with the idea of police officers reviewing and attempting to memorise the identities of criminals at the start of every shift, but not with a camera doing exactly the same thing.
Plodderic on
I’m surprised they’re not using Bluetooth sniffers. I’d put money on at least half the people who go around with their faces covered having a phone, AirTag or similar squawking “Steve’s phone” along with a unique identifier.
PulsatingBalloonKnot on
It all sounds like a dystopian version of ‚Person of Interest‘, a TV Show from the early 2010s.
Ungodly_Box on
Well I guess I’m going to get a mask of that really annoying reflective material
Annual-Rip4687 on
Remember 6 years ago, we all wore masks. Maybe we should again, for hygiene, well data hygiene anyway.
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>She also said that data taken from people not on a watchlist “is deleted a fraction of a second after it is created, precisely because the MPS has no interest in that data”.
Yeah I don’t believe this for a second, the government is notorious for poor data protection.
It should be, central London should be a policed state as it’s own entity with mandatory ID check points and vistor passes. It seems daft to put so much crucial infrastructure in one point and not protect it.
Doesn’t really matter for the criminals who walk around London with their faces covered, just a way to track everyone else.
Its a great trial space for their plan for intrusive surveillance across the whole of the UK. The whole country will become this way eventually if we let this continue and we’ll have our own version of the CCP system.
I don’t understand the issue – you have no right to privacy in a public space so does it really make much difference if it’s a human police officer looking out for bad guys or a computer doing the same?
That said, I doubt this will help that much unless the laws are changed so repeat offenders can’t just keep on offending.
If this actually helps catch more criminals in a meaningful way, then yeah, I guess it can be seen as a good thing in theory.
That said, I really don’t like how this pairs with all the online safety / ID verification stuff. People are already getting punished over things they say online, and if more sites start requiring ID because of the OSA, it starts feeling sketchy. Add facial recognition into the mix and it’s a pretty obvious slippery slope if you say something the government doesn’t like.
The hard right will probably thinking burqas aint so bad after all soon.
It really would be nice if there were any politicians that gave even the slightest shit about personal privacy and rights.
I’ve written to my MP about this kind of stuff numerous times and just get the usual „we need to strike a balance between personal freedoms and security“ response.
Strange how the balance seems to have somebody from the govt with their thumb on it on the side of „security“ 99% of the time, isn’t it.
Then you going to ban hoods, scarves ,masks, burkas?
Oh how lovely. Bet it will make you feel really safe and not as if people are spying on you
Remind me of how we’re a „free“ country again?
If you can’t go outside without it being recorded, documented, and potentially eventually requiring permits (Oxford already has this planned drivers) you don’t live in a free society, this stuff needs to end, immediately.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/723131
And normal people want to stop you from being able to mask up and avoid scanning like this.
I seem to recall the constant memes of „social credit score -1000“ memes when China did this, doesn’t seem to be much outrage now we’re doing it.
Guess next time I go to London I will have to wear a COVID mask, a hat and eye wear
UK: China is a global threat to democracy because of its authoritarianism and censorship.
Also UK: We need mass surveillance, mandatory ID verification to access the internet, ban on social media for those under 16 to stop them accessing news not approved by the government/the owners of MSM and ban on VPNs so we can monitor your internet activity to erm… protect the children. Yes, if you’re against any of these policies, you’re on the side of pedophiles.
I don’t understand why people are fine with the idea of police officers reviewing and attempting to memorise the identities of criminals at the start of every shift, but not with a camera doing exactly the same thing.
I’m surprised they’re not using Bluetooth sniffers. I’d put money on at least half the people who go around with their faces covered having a phone, AirTag or similar squawking “Steve’s phone” along with a unique identifier.
It all sounds like a dystopian version of ‚Person of Interest‘, a TV Show from the early 2010s.
Well I guess I’m going to get a mask of that really annoying reflective material
Remember 6 years ago, we all wore masks. Maybe we should again, for hygiene, well data hygiene anyway.