I was in a motor parts shop over Christmas with a lad who wanted to buy a 20p bolt for his card. The lad went to pay with his card then the shop keeper behind the counter said „I can’t accept card, as I’ll be charged 60p on the transaction“. We then had to search high and low for a 20p peice to give the shop keeper.
60p for each transaction is quite a big price to pay each time. Especially if somebody buys one item. It can certainly eat into a small shops profit margin and then people have the cheek to say these shops are avoiding paying tax because they accept cash.
Cash used to be the normal form of payments. Why isn’t it anymore ?
Djinjja-Ninja on
> Davies said the cost of the transactions meant him losing about £5 for every £50 made.
He’s getting charged 10% card fees? Seems unlikely as most payment processors in the UK are 2% or less.
Edit: forgot about authorisation fees, but still, unless he’s doing lots of £2.50 payments it still doesn’t compute.
Funny-Profit-5677 on
By the time you’ve whinged to the BBC you could have shopped around for a cheap card provider and it would probably be cheaper than taking cash (wages to count + bank’s 0.7% charge).
One minutes googling and Revolut is 0.8%+2p per transaction.
This-Lengthiness-479 on
So your pint will be 11 quid instead of 12? (Slight exaggeration, but not really..)
PrinzRagoczy on
Funny, we just had that other post where a business was complaining about people using cash rather than cards
Academic-Ask1119 on
Cash is actually quite convenient, just not as instantaneously convenient as tapping your card on an outstretched reader.
But we should still use cash, not just because of the high fees for card payments merchants pay but the fact that it is now nigh on impossible to pay with a card in the UK without using Visa or MasterCard, the privately owned US companies that corner the world payments market.
Not only is this one of the biggest monopolies in history,but if the US one day decides to ’suspend‘ payments in Britain because it, say, wants us to accept US food standards or US control of Greenland, we are fucked. Not so convenient when the card stops working and nobody has any cash.
AdAggressive9224 on
We should have a state owned card payment provider. Something that’s not for profit that basically just ensures that any profit needs to be generated through efficiency savings.
It would be a massive boon to the economy.
h0M3b on
This is how to do it. You never sold any pints remember if it’s cash
Old_Hamster1264 on
Someone from this sub said people who use cash are far right last week 🤣
Who even cares how people pay for things? Seriously…
PM_me_Henrika on
I like to pay in cash. I saw a shorts that I agree with on Facebook, is that if you spend £50 at the butcher’s, the butcher gets 50 on which he uses it to pay the smithy who makes his cleaver. The cleaver also gets the full 50 to spend on the next person and so on and so on within the economy.
With cards every time money exchanges hand, a small part of it goes to banks, maybe overseas. Gradually less and less money goes around and eventually the £50 leaves the UK and never comes back to us.
No-Understanding-589 on
The part he doesn’t take into consideration. People like me and my wife don’t carry cash. I barely ever even have a card with me these days I just have my phone. If we were to be driving past his pub one day and decide to stop in, we would walk straight back out as we couldn’t pay.
Lopay isn’t even 1%… It is better to have 99% of £50 than £0
Whenever I hear businesses moaning about this, it just feels like they are moaning that they have to pay tax on all their earnings now. A couple of the owners of the locals in my hometown didn’t even hide the fact when you paid with the right change the money didn’t go into the till
RoutineCloud5993 on
Cash still cost businesses money though. Deposits cost money, as does withdrawing change for till floats. Not to mention the need to either physically make the trip to the bank or pay a company to handle it for you.
Unless he’s keeping it all out of the bank, which is just asking for trouble.
I have no idea how the costs compare to credit cards though.
Ok-Luck1166 on
Don’t talk about money at a time like this please I mean you’ll be offering me a discount for cash next won’t ya.
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I was in a motor parts shop over Christmas with a lad who wanted to buy a 20p bolt for his card. The lad went to pay with his card then the shop keeper behind the counter said „I can’t accept card, as I’ll be charged 60p on the transaction“. We then had to search high and low for a 20p peice to give the shop keeper.
60p for each transaction is quite a big price to pay each time. Especially if somebody buys one item. It can certainly eat into a small shops profit margin and then people have the cheek to say these shops are avoiding paying tax because they accept cash.
Cash used to be the normal form of payments. Why isn’t it anymore ?
> Davies said the cost of the transactions meant him losing about £5 for every £50 made.
He’s getting charged 10% card fees? Seems unlikely as most payment processors in the UK are 2% or less.
Edit: forgot about authorisation fees, but still, unless he’s doing lots of £2.50 payments it still doesn’t compute.
By the time you’ve whinged to the BBC you could have shopped around for a cheap card provider and it would probably be cheaper than taking cash (wages to count + bank’s 0.7% charge).
One minutes googling and Revolut is 0.8%+2p per transaction.
So your pint will be 11 quid instead of 12? (Slight exaggeration, but not really..)
Funny, we just had that other post where a business was complaining about people using cash rather than cards
Cash is actually quite convenient, just not as instantaneously convenient as tapping your card on an outstretched reader.
But we should still use cash, not just because of the high fees for card payments merchants pay but the fact that it is now nigh on impossible to pay with a card in the UK without using Visa or MasterCard, the privately owned US companies that corner the world payments market.
Not only is this one of the biggest monopolies in history,but if the US one day decides to ’suspend‘ payments in Britain because it, say, wants us to accept US food standards or US control of Greenland, we are fucked. Not so convenient when the card stops working and nobody has any cash.
We should have a state owned card payment provider. Something that’s not for profit that basically just ensures that any profit needs to be generated through efficiency savings.
It would be a massive boon to the economy.
This is how to do it. You never sold any pints remember if it’s cash
Someone from this sub said people who use cash are far right last week 🤣
Who even cares how people pay for things? Seriously…
I like to pay in cash. I saw a shorts that I agree with on Facebook, is that if you spend £50 at the butcher’s, the butcher gets 50 on which he uses it to pay the smithy who makes his cleaver. The cleaver also gets the full 50 to spend on the next person and so on and so on within the economy.
With cards every time money exchanges hand, a small part of it goes to banks, maybe overseas. Gradually less and less money goes around and eventually the £50 leaves the UK and never comes back to us.
The part he doesn’t take into consideration. People like me and my wife don’t carry cash. I barely ever even have a card with me these days I just have my phone. If we were to be driving past his pub one day and decide to stop in, we would walk straight back out as we couldn’t pay.
Lopay isn’t even 1%… It is better to have 99% of £50 than £0
Whenever I hear businesses moaning about this, it just feels like they are moaning that they have to pay tax on all their earnings now. A couple of the owners of the locals in my hometown didn’t even hide the fact when you paid with the right change the money didn’t go into the till
Cash still cost businesses money though. Deposits cost money, as does withdrawing change for till floats. Not to mention the need to either physically make the trip to the bank or pay a company to handle it for you.
Unless he’s keeping it all out of the bank, which is just asking for trouble.
I have no idea how the costs compare to credit cards though.
Don’t talk about money at a time like this please I mean you’ll be offering me a discount for cash next won’t ya.