That’s a tiny profit margin but also why is the tax so low?? Do corporations pay taxes on profit or revenue?
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Their “operating costs” include huge payment packages amounting to billion$ for executives
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Oh look another sankey… Downvote.
Please mods let’s ban them or put them all in a sticky post.
herrbz on
10% tax rate? What the fuck.
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Sometimes people can’t just accept healthcare is just more expensive in the US cuz we just have more unhealthy ppl/impoverished
And other big problem in the US is defensive medicine. Doctors do more here so they don’t get sued since the US has way more lawsuits than any other country.
Also the US has a big problem with overspending on healthcare. We have way more doctors/MRIs/beds available per pt than any other OECD country. Keeping this extra equipment running raises prices much higher but it makes healthcare more convenient which is what most Americans care about (atleast that’s what consumer decisions say).
Roughly, out of $1 in U.S. healthcare spending:
• ~60–65¢ → clinical labor, supplies, drugs
• ~15–25¢ → administration & billing
• ~10–15¢ → capital, interest, depreciation, research
• ~2–5¢ → profit
It’s not greedy insurance companies all the time
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UNH operates four segments United healthcare, the insurance company; Optum Insights, the consulting / hipaa compliant IT company; Optum Health, an integrated physician office network; and OptumRx, a pharmacy benefit manager that manages custom plans for sponsors
If you’re looking for medical expense ratio, that’s premiums 352 Billion on Medical costs 314 Billion, a payout ratio of 89%. From the remainder, if we use the current ratios of Income to cost (4%) profit is 14B, operating cost is 21B for the insurance segment
you might argue that’s too much, but at least use the correct numbers when talking about the insurance segment
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So, profits+operating costs (overhead) is over 23% of what they pay back to hospitals. Indeed the „products sold“ for cool $50B is highly questionable, too (what? they re-sell drugs at 5% profit? Why do they need to be in the middle, not, say, local governments or hospitals??)
So that’s what their use is: collect 23+% of medical costs and make some money on drugs re-selling. Nice.
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UNH is -19% today btw lmao
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That’s a tiny profit margin but also why is the tax so low?? Do corporations pay taxes on profit or revenue?
Their “operating costs” include huge payment packages amounting to billion$ for executives
Oh look another sankey… Downvote.
Please mods let’s ban them or put them all in a sticky post.
10% tax rate? What the fuck.
Sometimes people can’t just accept healthcare is just more expensive in the US cuz we just have more unhealthy ppl/impoverished
And other big problem in the US is defensive medicine. Doctors do more here so they don’t get sued since the US has way more lawsuits than any other country.
Also the US has a big problem with overspending on healthcare. We have way more doctors/MRIs/beds available per pt than any other OECD country. Keeping this extra equipment running raises prices much higher but it makes healthcare more convenient which is what most Americans care about (atleast that’s what consumer decisions say).
Roughly, out of $1 in U.S. healthcare spending:
• ~60–65¢ → clinical labor, supplies, drugs
• ~15–25¢ → administration & billing
• ~10–15¢ → capital, interest, depreciation, research
• ~2–5¢ → profit
It’s not greedy insurance companies all the time
UNH operates four segments United healthcare, the insurance company; Optum Insights, the consulting / hipaa compliant IT company; Optum Health, an integrated physician office network; and OptumRx, a pharmacy benefit manager that manages custom plans for sponsors
If you’re looking for medical expense ratio, that’s premiums 352 Billion on Medical costs 314 Billion, a payout ratio of 89%. From the remainder, if we use the current ratios of Income to cost (4%) profit is 14B, operating cost is 21B for the insurance segment
you might argue that’s too much, but at least use the correct numbers when talking about the insurance segment
So, profits+operating costs (overhead) is over 23% of what they pay back to hospitals. Indeed the „products sold“ for cool $50B is highly questionable, too (what? they re-sell drugs at 5% profit? Why do they need to be in the middle, not, say, local governments or hospitals??)
So that’s what their use is: collect 23+% of medical costs and make some money on drugs re-selling. Nice.
UNH is -19% today btw lmao