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    In der kanadischen Politik darf eine neue Weltordnung die Lebensmittelpreise nicht in den Schatten stellen


    In der kanadischen Politik darf eine neue Weltordnung die Lebensmittelpreise nicht in den Schatten stellen

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-poilievre-groceries-analysis-9.7061885

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    1. shiftless_wonder on

      >The [old world is dying](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-davos-speech-analysis-9.7058547) and a new era of global instability beckons.

      >But first, the groceries.

      >“For many Canadians, the cost of groceries and everyday essentials has been too high for too long. They need more support now,“ Prime Minister Mark Carney conceded on Monday morning, speaking at a grocery store in Ottawa, almost exactly a week removed from [his landmark speech in Davos, Switzerland](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-speech-davos-rules-based-order-9.7053350).

      Do the Libs ever get to an issue first? Poilievre decides he wants the carbon tax gone. Carney then decides he also wants the carbon tax gone. Poilievre sounds the alarm on housing, the Liberals also then realize it’s a problem. Poilievre starts banging the drum on grocery prices and presto Libs are on it. Why are we stuck with the party playing catch up when we could’ve had the one that is right on top of things?

    2. WurstCaseOntario007 on

      They should just drop taxes on real food. However, when the manufactured food shortages begin, and prices rise further, you can bet that climate change will be blamed.

    3. gorschkov on

      One way for Canadians to judge the performance of his government would be by „their experience at the grocery store'“.

      Mark Carney

    4. DigitaIBlack on

      The problem is these oligopolies are vertically integrated to the point we can’t see if things are unfair.

      They own the real estate. They own the distributors. They own the stores. And „they“ isn’t exactly Loblaw. It’s Loblaw adjacent so who knows what’s really happening. It’s a bunch of overlapping Venn diagrams that spell „fuck you we’re getting away with murder“.

      So we know it’s bullshit but have no mechanisms to suss out where the bullshit is.

      Unless we get a clear example like the REIT telling a dollar store they can’t sell certain food products.

      Edit: does anyone remember that Reddit post about the son of a southern Ontarian cold storage company taking over and admitting to getting invited to what was effectively a closed door price floor meeting? I remember. Not the same conversation as vertical integration but idgaf even if it isn’t true. The fact it could easily be true highlights some of the problems with our checks and balances.

    5. Nascar2k64 on

      This entire country is made to get on its knees and kiss the feet of the Westons and Jim Pattinson, the government works for them.

    6. SasquatchBlumpkins on

      Go take a boo at the bill. It’s not 10 million tax paying Canadians getting the money, it’s 10 million benefitting from the GST payment. 

      Also they’re extremely low income, it won’t touch closer to the middle class. 

      So you’ll see some low income Canadians getting taxes back to feed their family. And it’s those families that make up the 10 million benefactors.

      This government is so slimy. No different from Trudeau except these guys are blatantly taking ideas from the CPC, screwing them up, and of course doing nothing but announcements. And if course this GST payment is a Trudeau era idea that he used.

    7. TRyanLee on

      Mark Carney isn’t confused about where higher grocery prices come from. He’s one of the most sophisticated macro-economic thinkers Canada has ever produced.

      He has spent years arguing for carbon pricing and climate-aligned financial policy, fully aware that these policies raise input costs across the entire economy – energy, fertilizer, manufacturing, packaging, transport, storage, and retail. Those costs compound through supply chains and show up most clearly in essentials like food.

      The problem is that once you help create a higher cost base, you can’t easily walk it back.

      So instead, the political solution becomes redistribution: acknowledge that groceries are expensive and then play the hero by issuing rebates to low-income households. That may help people survive the prices – but it doesn’t make food cheaper.

      And crucially, it doesn’t come from nowhere.
      Those rebates are funded by the same tax base that absorbed the higher costs in the first place. The middle class pays higher prices at every step, doesn’t qualify for the rebate, and then also helps fund it through taxes.

      So the sequence matters:
      policies raise production and supply-chain costs
      prices rise permanently
      government revenue rises with prices
      rebates are issued to offset the pain for some
      That’s not affordability policy. That’s cost creation followed by redistribution.

      You can support helping low-income Canadians and still be honest that upstream policy choices helped push prices higher to begin with. Pretending those two things aren’t connected is what frustrates people.

    8. dollarsandcents101 on

      I’m still blown away that our Prime Minister declared there’s a new world order in Beijing and he didn’t take heat for it. It’s not like China has become any better since the Two Michaels and interfering in our elections. The last thing we should want is Chinese hegemony to get entrenched in our country.

    10. Valahul77 on

      The price of groceries is first and above all a domestic problem. In order to fix the root cause of it which are the olygopols, Canada would need an anti-trust law to force any company having a dominant position on the market to split into 3-4 entities with different owners. 

    11. No-Accident-5912 on

      Carney’s GST rebate is poorly considered public policy from a government afraid to offend the monopoly grocers. A better alternative would be to select a basket of the 30 most purchased basic food items and place a floor and ceiling on their prices. Grocers would be required to stock these items as they have in the past, but would not be allowed to profit from them. They would continue to make profit on everything else they sell. Consider it as their contribution to creating a more equitable society.

    12. MinuteCampaign7843 on

      I’m sure these huge companies lobby the government hard and line their pockets to keep the status quo – high prices, Canadians going to food banks. We must hold these people to account and demand this stop!

    13. dontsheeple on

      Forced to depend on governent handout to feed your family , that is the new world order. Make the goverment strong and the individual weak.

    14. Subject989 on

      nationalized grocer to combat the monopolies and their gouging would be great

    15. EntrepreneurLanky973 on

      Expensive groceries ARE part of Carney’s New World Order

    16. TheBannaMeister on

      Well when grocery stores can have rules like „The property control attached to a Sobeys in Winnipeg states no one can sell food on the same developer’s adjacent land unless Sobeys says so, and that permission can be withheld “unreasonably and arbitrarily“ “

      what do you even do

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