This should include expanding Europe’s nuclear arsenal as the U.S. can no longer be trusted as an ally. It would be a significant check against Russian aggression.
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_segamega_ on
(in)competent eu leaders want to turn europe into a superpower. what are the chances?
FugaziHandz on
Can anyone post the article here?
The-Eye-of_Ra on
Superpower of the elderly. Half of Germany is 50+
Honestly, Europe is in decline but so is the rest of the West.
Saintgein on
A superpower of people that have to pay for it. Because these politicians surely aren’t paying for any of it, such nice people.
Bulawayoland on
dumb. DUMB. What Europe needs is to become ONE COUNTRY.
Shared values, right? Live the dream. Thucydides told us 2400 years ago, courage is the most important thing. Have some courage.
If Germany and France get the ball rolling by becoming one country, they can then invite selected others to join. This would handle group defense AND the Draghi report at one go. And it would make Europe a new superpower, with which any others would have to reckon carefully.
AdOriginal1084 on
Wonderful idea in principle but you only have to look at the numbers regarding Ukraine to realise not everyone is going to be pulling their weight in this superpower situation which will just cause more division later down the line.
Europe is in a position to differ as a superpower. Europe’s weakness, the difficulty in decision making and its small-step slow approach to everything, can also be an advantage under specific circumstances. 27 member states with different national election dates and a large multi-party parliament make it hard for a Trump-like dictator to gain power by a single vote and turn everything upside down in one night.
MountEndurance on
Since the US has decided to be insane, Europe should position itself to carry the torch of decency into the 21st century and let the whiny child throw its tantrum.
Canada, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia beckon. A rules-based order, democracy, a single economy, and a united military for mutual defense while each state is otherwise free to pursue their own destiny, then admitting other states as they show themselves ready to shoulder that burden. It’ll mean no one-state veto, smoothing interstate trade and finance, and dispensing with the idea that states can swear upon their honor to be part of the project in good times, only to withdraw in hardship, but it’s necessary.
That’s the only way the future of freedom and security can be guarded.
GingerTomahawk on
I would love this, Europe is made of the middle powers Carney has been talking about working together to take on the superpowers of China, USA and Russia
Ok_Relation7695 on
It’s crazy how this subs views have changed… I use to get downvoted to hell some years ago when I said Europe should be more independent from USA. Hopefully we start to do that we can become the most powerful superpower in humans history… but I have my doubts
nahunk on
I don’t want to pay to be a superpower, I solely agree to pay so we are able to defend ourselves.
Common wellbeing remains the target.
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This should include expanding Europe’s nuclear arsenal as the U.S. can no longer be trusted as an ally. It would be a significant check against Russian aggression.
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(in)competent eu leaders want to turn europe into a superpower. what are the chances?
Can anyone post the article here?
Superpower of the elderly. Half of Germany is 50+
Honestly, Europe is in decline but so is the rest of the West.
A superpower of people that have to pay for it. Because these politicians surely aren’t paying for any of it, such nice people.
dumb. DUMB. What Europe needs is to become ONE COUNTRY.
Shared values, right? Live the dream. Thucydides told us 2400 years ago, courage is the most important thing. Have some courage.
If Germany and France get the ball rolling by becoming one country, they can then invite selected others to join. This would handle group defense AND the Draghi report at one go. And it would make Europe a new superpower, with which any others would have to reckon carefully.
Wonderful idea in principle but you only have to look at the numbers regarding Ukraine to realise not everyone is going to be pulling their weight in this superpower situation which will just cause more division later down the line.
[https://www.kielinstitut.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/](https://www.kielinstitut.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/)
Europe is in a position to differ as a superpower. Europe’s weakness, the difficulty in decision making and its small-step slow approach to everything, can also be an advantage under specific circumstances. 27 member states with different national election dates and a large multi-party parliament make it hard for a Trump-like dictator to gain power by a single vote and turn everything upside down in one night.
Since the US has decided to be insane, Europe should position itself to carry the torch of decency into the 21st century and let the whiny child throw its tantrum.
Canada, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia beckon. A rules-based order, democracy, a single economy, and a united military for mutual defense while each state is otherwise free to pursue their own destiny, then admitting other states as they show themselves ready to shoulder that burden. It’ll mean no one-state veto, smoothing interstate trade and finance, and dispensing with the idea that states can swear upon their honor to be part of the project in good times, only to withdraw in hardship, but it’s necessary.
That’s the only way the future of freedom and security can be guarded.
I would love this, Europe is made of the middle powers Carney has been talking about working together to take on the superpowers of China, USA and Russia
It’s crazy how this subs views have changed… I use to get downvoted to hell some years ago when I said Europe should be more independent from USA. Hopefully we start to do that we can become the most powerful superpower in humans history… but I have my doubts
I don’t want to pay to be a superpower, I solely agree to pay so we are able to defend ourselves.
Common wellbeing remains the target.